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[chrisgixer]

I have no comment on the alleged drunk driver.
I am sure his punishment will be as the law dictates 
And they say a copper's never around when you need one!

As to periodic re-tests due to age - I think it should be periodic re-tests regardless of age. say every 5 years.

I got my car ridiculously cheap cos the old bloke that owned it from new "decided" that he wasn't fit to drive any more  at 74

Just to be clear(er) I'm talking across the board. Nout to do with age as such. My eye site, I now know as that's when the headaches started, has been deteriorating since the age of 20. That varies person to person of course.

Although I would like to see more regular test as the years advance. Yearly from 50? Or something along those lines. I feel the uncertainty increasing as I approach junctions, as I get older. The ability to process info quickly diminishing slightly. Driving at night gets harder, rain on the screen at night distracts more... Blah blah. Add in tiredness, from shift work, well you get the picture.

Fork truck drivers are tested regularly. But a vehicle, with passengers, capable of well over the ton, isn't! Yes yes I know there's the the company liability angle but its still a ludicrous situation IMO.

[chrisgixer]

Although non of this helps with DD. Thread drift...

[AndyRoid]

Although, all of that is useless if there's no enforcement. Which there isn't ATM.

That's because the authorities believe that ANPR is covering the basics, however all it has achieved is to make it even easier to get away with driving illegally.

[Crazycarzowner]

ANPR covers the basics?  yeah right! If you only knew how c**p it is........When it works, when its up to date & when its monitored its great, but that's less than half the time on a busy shift.

[AndyRoid]

ANPR covers the basics?  yeah right! If you only knew how c**p it is........When it works, when its up to date & when its monitored its great, but that's less than half the time on a busy shift.

I know exactly how easy it is to circumvent ANPR Jason 

[Kevin Wood]

I have been to several lectures by the ANPR manager of a local force. They turned off detection of the common offences (no tax, no insurance, cloned plates, etc) because the screens in the control room are just a blur otherwise.

They reckon it's been invaluable in countering serious crime, though.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Fork truck drivers are tested regularly. But a vehicle, with passengers, capable of well over the ton, isn't! Yes yes I know there's the the company liability angle but its still a ludicrous situation IMO.

Thats not guaranteed either and is totaly down to company process.....but then there is no such thing as a forklift license either.

[aaronjb]

ANPR covers the basics?  yeah right! If you only knew how c**p it is........When it works, when its up to date & when its monitored its great, but that's less than half the time on a busy shift.

So what you're saying is .. we don't need to bother taxing or insuring our cars anymore and you guys won't be doing anything about it?

Money saver!

[chrisgixer]

Fork truck drivers are tested regularly. But a vehicle, with passengers, capable of well over the ton, isn't! Yes yes I know there's the the company liability angle but its still a ludicrous situation IMO.

Thats not guaranteed either and is totaly down to company process.....but then there is no such thing as a forklift license either.

A company  I know have let "licenses" lapse completely in despatch, and running annualised hours they noticed staff in that dept where ahead on hours so sent them home. Only to realise they where being audited by a new customer. So demanded staff returned from their forced holiday to re test, in their own time.

It didn't go well

Management. Really!

[Marks DTM Calib]

Indeed, I am currently looking to get a process implimented at a certain site (where there is currently very little).

The J Certificate is out for us as it does not cover the kit we have well (it also does not consider maintenance and checking of the equipment very well).

So a local documented process is needed with bi-annual assessments

[05omegav6]

If you can demonstrate competence, have regular and systematic training in place and keep thourough and transparent records, then there should be no reason for not being self certificated (from a management point of view)

[78bex]

re-test every 5 years ok why not, but it will not stop the regular drink & drive bods.     it`s now time for zero alcohol consumption if driving. 

[chrisgixer]

re-test every 5 years ok why not, but it will not stop the regular drink & drive bods.     it`s now time for zero alcohol consumption if driving. 

Yes that's why I posted about thread drift earlier, nout will stop determined DD. Except more police presence. Outside each pub probably. Never going to happen.

Zero alchahol. Can't disagree, but IMO, its lower down the priority list.

Driving standards, and numbers on the road are way off IMO. No?

[78bex]

re-test every 5 years ok why not, but it will not stop the regular drink & drive bods.     it`s now time for zero alcohol consumption if driving. 

Yes that's why I posted about thread drift earlier, nout will stop determined DD. Except more police presence. Outside each pub probably. Never going to happen.

Zero alchahol. Can't disagree, but IMO, its lower down the priority list.

Driving standards, and numbers on the road are way off IMO. No?

Fair point re driving standards, but I suppose even if zero alocohol was introduced the regular DD wouldn`t take a blind bit of notice.

[redelitev6]

Both my Father and Father in law kept driving when they should have been stopped , my dads sight was so poor my mother had to tell him what colour the traffic lights were ! he eventually saw sense when he clipped a kerb and punctured a tyre