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Re: Questions for the MOT
« Reply #15 on: 10 March 2014, 23:37:05 »
Quote from: RobG on 10 March 2014, 23:25:20
IIRC the "new" MOT failure doesn`t cancel the existing one so the car can still be legally driven unless the tester has deemed it "unsafe for use"

Sorry .. totally disagree ...

From the VOSA site

If your vehicle fails the test

You’ll get a ‘notification of failure’ from the test centre if your vehicle fails the test. The failure will be recorded in the secure central MOT database.

You can still drive your vehicle if it fails the test and its existing MOT certificate is still valid (ie you got it tested before the expiry date). However, you might be stopped by police and prosecuted if your vehicle is unroadworthy.

My highlight .. if its failed the MOT it is unroadworthy ..... and the system knows it ...
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Re: Questions for the MOT
« Reply #16 on: 10 March 2014, 23:45:26 »
Quote from: Entwood on 10 March 2014, 23:37:05
Quote from: RobG on 10 March 2014, 23:25:20
IIRC the "new" MOT failure doesn`t cancel the existing one so the car can still be legally driven unless the tester has deemed it "unsafe for use"

Sorry .. totally disagree ...

From the VOSA site

If your vehicle fails the test

You’ll get a ‘notification of failure’ from the test centre if your vehicle fails the test. The failure will be recorded in the secure central MOT database.

You can still drive your vehicle if it fails the test and its existing MOT certificate is still valid (ie you got it tested before the expiry date). However, you might be stopped by police and prosecuted if your vehicle is unroadworthy.

My highlight .. if its failed the MOT it is unroadworthy ..... and the system knows it ...








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Re: Questions for the MOT
« Reply #17 on: 10 March 2014, 23:52:44 »
With any luck Jason will read this thread and give us his opinion from a trafpol point of view.... he after all is the one who will see the ANPR readout as he cruises behind you .....   :)
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Re: Questions for the MOT
« Reply #18 on: 11 March 2014, 01:07:39 »
Quote from: Entwood on 10 March 2014, 23:52:44
With any luck Jason will read this thread and give us his opinion from a trafpol point of view.... he after all is the one who will see the ANPR readout as he cruises behind you .....   :)
On the back of a recovery truck more than likely ;D ;D
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Re: Questions for the MOT
« Reply #19 on: 11 March 2014, 05:41:57 »
Quote from: Entwood on 10 March 2014, 23:37:05
...... However, you might be stopped by police and prosecuted if your vehicle is unroadworthy.[/i]

My highlight .. if its failed the MOT it is unroadworthy ..... and the system knows it ...

That always applies, irrespective of whether it's been for and failed an MOT or not
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Re: Questions for the MOT
« Reply #20 on: 11 March 2014, 09:21:55 »
yes, unroadworthy in the police eyes has nothing to do with unroadworthy in the MOTs eyes.

even with a new MOT certificate, for example, there are a myriad of reasons why you could quite rightly be pulled over for having an unroadworthy vehicle.

on the other hand, an MOT "unroadworthy" fail could not be used as unroadworthy evidence in its own right, especially if there is also an MOT pass in place.

so yes, the MOT pass is still valid, even if there is a subsequent fail
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Re: Questions for the MOT
« Reply #21 on: 11 March 2014, 11:50:58 »
There is some difference of opinion here obviously.

So if I got my car tested on Thursday and it failed the Police wouldn't pull me over as my current MOT runs out on Sunday?

Would I be safe to drive on Thursday and Friday to get the work sorted?
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Re: Questions for the MOT
« Reply #22 on: 11 March 2014, 12:05:38 »
Quote from: Kate on 11 March 2014, 11:50:58
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Would I be safe to drive on Thursday and Friday to get the work sorted?

Depends what it fails on ;)
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Re: Questions for the MOT
« Reply #23 on: 11 March 2014, 12:24:02 »
IMHO this is why the 13 month MOT exists.

You take your car for MOT at 11 months, all being well you get anothers year, well 13 month ticket.

All not being well, you have time to fix the car before the 'old / current' MOT runs out.

Should the car be a dangerous MOT fail, then the MOT'ing garage can flag this and demand it be fixed on site / trailered away to be fixed before being allowed back on the road.

May not be accurate, but it is my understanding of the system.
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Re: Questions for the MOT
« Reply #24 on: 11 March 2014, 12:31:23 »
Quote from: Entwood on 10 March 2014, 23:37:05
Sorry .. totally disagree ...

From the VOSA site

If your vehicle fails the test

You’ll get a ‘notification of failure’ from the test centre if your vehicle fails the test. The failure will be recorded in the secure central MOT database.

You can still drive your vehicle if it fails the test and its existing MOT certificate is still valid (ie you got it tested before the expiry date). However, you might be stopped by police and prosecuted if your vehicle is unroadworthy.

My highlight .. if its failed the MOT it is unroadworthy ..... and the system knows it ...

^^^^^  Absolutely spot on  ^^^^^
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Re: Questions for the MOT
« Reply #25 on: 11 March 2014, 12:58:11 »
Quote from: Seth on 11 March 2014, 12:31:23
Quote from: Entwood on 10 March 2014, 23:37:05
Sorry .. totally disagree ...

From the VOSA site

If your vehicle fails the test

You’ll get a ‘notification of failure’ from the test centre if your vehicle fails the test. The failure will be recorded in the secure central MOT database.

You can still drive your vehicle if it fails the test and its existing MOT certificate is still valid (ie you got it tested before the expiry date). However, you might be stopped by police and prosecuted if your vehicle is unroadworthy.

My highlight .. if its failed the MOT it is unroadworthy ..... and the system knows it ...

^^^^^  Absolutely spot on  ^^^^^

but as said above ...... that's the case any way, irrelevant of when the MOT is due.

The only difference now, is that with the computerised system, 'they' now know you know there's a fault on the car
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Re: Questions for the MOT
« Reply #26 on: 11 March 2014, 12:59:09 »
Quote from: Jimbob on 11 March 2014, 12:24:02
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May not be accurate, but it is my understanding of the system.

Likewise
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Re: Questions for the MOT
« Reply #27 on: 11 March 2014, 13:11:17 »
Would have thought that both steering idler and no abs would attract Dangerous as a failure point :-\

Book the car in for first thing on Monday and get the work done as planned :y

Worth noting that it might fail on one or more other items anyway, but fixing what you know to be wrong before it's tested improves its chances...
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Re: Questions for the MOT
« Reply #28 on: 11 March 2014, 15:34:08 »
should I point out here that I've recently qualified as an MOT examiner ?
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Re: Questions for the MOT
« Reply #29 on: 11 March 2014, 16:45:48 »
Regardless of if it's mot'd or not , if the cam belt is 3 years over due I wouldn't use the car ::)
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