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[omega3000]

You base your comment on what?

The usual pish informed to us by sky and bbc news  I dont give a monkeys what happens , there's more important things in life .

[Sir Tigger KC]

Yeah - but you've got all them coffin dodgers blocking up the roads and sea fronts to pay for too. Pensions are cripplingly expensive, as the Scots will/may find out. Admitedly you've got Tanglefoot, Old Thumper and Fourty Niner but that ain't gonna cover it. No good cheeses either.

No good cheeses you say??    You've obviously never tried a bit of Dorset Blue Vinney!   

Yes plenty of coffin dodgers, but think of all that inheritance tax! 

Did I mention we've got oil?    Wytch Farm in Purbeck as well as Brownsea Island and Bournemouth!  It's our oil!!!

Think I'll start the DNP, see how it goes...       Maybe I'll offer a free Dorset Knob to everyone that joins up! 

[The Sheriff]

Yeah - but you've got all them coffin dodgers blocking up the roads and sea fronts to pay for too. Pensions are cripplingly expensive, as the Scots will/may find out. Admitedly you've got Tanglefoot, Old Thumper and Fourty Niner but that ain't gonna cover it. No good cheeses either.

No good cheeses you say??    You've obviously never tried a bit of Dorset Blue Vinney!   

Yes plenty of coffin dodgers, but think of all that inheritance tax! 

Did I mention we've got oil?    Wytch Farm in Purbeck as well as Brownsea Island and Bournemouth!  It's our oil!!!

Think I'll start the DNP, see how it goes...       Maybe I'll offer a free Dorset Knob to everyone that joins up! 

Me first please! 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Would that be with or without cheese Uncle STMO?  I find 'em a bit dry without.   

[The Sheriff]

Would that be with or without cheese Uncle STMO?  I find 'em a bit dry without.   

Most of the knobs I've seen have cheese 


Yuk.

[hotel21]

You base your comment on what?

The usual pish informed to us by sky and bbc news  I dont give a monkeys what happens , there's more important things in life .

Therein lies the error. Both BBC and sky report what they want and have a very preferential slant on how their information to reflect the status quo. As does BBC Scotland. It's only when you review the newspapers that a clearer picture evolves - as long as you exclude 'national' papers such as the mirror/mail/similar who print English and Scottish editions. Editorials change according to the audience. After all, words sells papers!   

[hotel21]

Apologies for this being a Facebook link. Can't get a straight one but it's worth a gander to show how manipulative news reporting can be.

And yes, I do appreciate that spin spins both ways! 

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10152680983290396&id=659505395

[Shackeng]

Prediction: If a Yes vote, Salmond will not be seen for very long, as there is no way he will want to be left holding the poison chalice.

[hotel21]

As said already.

The referendum is not like/dislike Eck the Fish. After a potential yes then all the nay saying mp's will be falling over themselves for election in whatever camp/colour they represent. Fishy will be one of a number.....

[hotel21]

I find the oil debate quite amusing as the north sea has not a great deal left and what is there is pricey to extract and hence is dependent on oil prices being higher than $100 per barrel.

What I do fear is that oil and gas is not the answer to the Scottish independence funding gap and I still hope they vote No as they are great people being led on by a Muppet of the highest order.

Quite so.

But there is 90 plus % in nominally scottish waters which leaves not a lot in rUK. Does it matter that much if it runs out some time in the future?  It will run out a lot quicker in the rUK.

And muppets get regularly replaces every few years, just the same as England/wales/norn irn.

[chrisgixer]

8 pages of twaddle with one or two posts that barely scratch the surface of what this actually means to all of us....? None the wiser here.

Personally I like the together idea, and the Celtic spirit, but the bigotry that can surround unionist thinking repulses me greatly.  I see flags in people's gardens and think how "brave" (given both senses of the word) and which would I choose. If I had to. A flag that joins us but doesn't restrict us or repress identity. Encompasses the British isles without making the celts feel outcast. History doesn't help. Hmmm, no such thing exists.

 As always, within reason, pooling resources is a way to improve almost everything, yet Westminster has clearly failed somebody along the line. Do the Scott's think they are the only ones wronged by Westminster? Because if they do, they are wrong, and I'm not talking specific parties, but the self centred nature of politicians as a whole, inludung the yes crew north of the boarder.
 Carving a niche in the political map for ones self is the order of the day here and be damned with all else. Pleasing all of the people is not possible, but that does not mean they shouldn't try.

 The Scottish identity is one to behold. As is  (In no particular order, gulp ) the Irish and Welsh. This is something the English have failed greatly on IMO.

But out of that very failure however big or small, has potentially risen a complete separation. HTF has this come about? As the crime surely doesn't fit, .....does it?

[dbug]

8 pages of twaddle with one or two posts that barely scratch the surface of what this actually means to all of us....? None the wiser here.

Personally I like the together idea, and the Celtic spirit, but the bigotry that can surround unionist thinking repulses me greatly.  I see flags in people's gardens and think how "brave" (given both senses of the word) and which would I choose. If I had to. A flag that joins us but doesn't restrict us or repress identity. Encompasses the British isles without making the celts feel outcast. History doesn't help. Hmmm, no such thing exists.

 As always, within reason, pooling resources is a way to improve almost everything, yet Westminster has clearly failed somebody along the line. Do the Scott's think they are the only ones wronged by Westminster? Because if they do, they are wrong, and I'm not talking specific parties, but the self centred nature of politicians as a whole, inludung the yes crew north of the boarder.
 Carving a niche in the political map for ones self is the order of the day here and be damned with all else. Pleasing all of the people is not possible, but that does not mean they shouldn't try.

 The Scottish identity is one to behold. As is  (In no particular order, gulp ) the Irish and Welsh. This is something the English have failed greatly on IMO.

But out of that very failure however big or small, has potentially risen a complete separation. HTF has this come about? As the crime surely doesn't fit, .....does it?

Why prolong it then?

[chrisgixer]

Because, short of a Chrystal ball, maybe I would like someone who knows the subject to enlighten us all, Dbug! rather than "add to it" as you so "hippoclitically" put it


Or, if nobody does, make the point that, NOBODY has a Chrystal ball in good working order.

[TheBoy]

yet Westminster has clearly failed somebody along the line. Do the Scott's think they are the only ones wronged by Westminster? Because if they do, they are wrong

Indeed, not just Scotland, but anyone outside of the shithole usually referred to as London.

Virtually all initiatives seem to be in London for London people. HS2 being a prime example, but there are plenty of others (probably made worse since 2005 due to London 2012).


So rather than Scottish independence, how about the UK coming together, and ousting London

Anyway, back on topic....

[TheBoy]

Back on topic, I do fear that Salmond/Sturgeon are after independence at any cost purely for their own legacies.  There are too many things that keep getting washed over - currency, EU membership, borders etc.

That said, the Westminster part of the No campaign are playing silly beggers with the state owned banks - although its common sense that a state owned financial institution would have to be headquartered in the (majority) state that owned it. So that should be no surprise.

Big corporates don't like risk, so will all have contingencies to move out of Scotland. This leaves opportunities for SMEs, although discussing this on hols with bro (who has businesses in the retail trade), many of them are looking at pulling out with the extra costs and buearocracy of cross border trading, as nobody believes Scotland can keep the British Pound.


How can we be this close to the referendum, and still lack so many answers?


I am, as always, frustrated by UK media (English and Scottish) reporting. Completely full of shit, looking for the sensationalist headlines, rather than the truth.  As eluded to earlier by somebody else (sorry, can't remember who), the media also have their own political slants.