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Total Members Voted: 13

Voting closed: 29 November 2014, 22:29:20

[omega3000]

....except.... It isn't.

It is as TB said so , so there 

 

I can't ever remember a 3.0 coming past me on full chat. Has anyone ever witnessed this occurrence. 

Thats cos your always in the petrol station 

[05omegav6]

[Entwood]

Just what are we trying to compare here anyway to say 3.0 v 3.2 is way too simplistic ..

The 3.0 comes in 4 "guises":  Elite; auto & manual and MV6; auto & manual

The 3.2 comes in 2 .... Elite auto & MV6 auto.

If we compare Like-for-like ...

3.0 Elite Auto, 1770 Kg, 207 bhp = 116.9  bhp/Tonne
3.2 Elite Auto, 1700 Kg, 213 bhp = 125.3  bhp/Tonne

Retires to fit tin hat ....   

the 3.2 will outperform the 3.0

3.0 MV6 Auto, 1660 Kg, 207 bhp = 124.7 bhp/Tonne
3.2 MV6 Auto, 1656 Kg, 213 bhp = 128.6 bhp/Tonne

the 3.2 will outperform the 3.0

HOWEVER

3.0 MV6 manual, 1640 Kg, 207 bhp = 126.2 bhp/Tonne
3.2 Elite Auto,     1700 Kg, 213 bhp = 125.3 bhp/Tonne

then the MV6 "should" just about beat the 3.2 ...

as long as equal comparisons are made the manual MV6 cannot be included as the 3.2 was not made in manual form ....

[05omegav6]

Ahem.. 3.2 Manual

 

[Entwood]

Ahem.. 3.2 Manual

 

ex plod ... not listed...   

[05omegav6]

Clearly

A 3.2 manual saloon should be 1640kgs 213bhp, well over 128bhp/tonne

[chrisgixer]

Ah, but you forget, a normal non super human human can't stir the manual box as quick as the auto can with no super human input at all.  Because, the manual is always in the wrong gear. I'm told

What we are learning here though is, never let the facts stand in the way off a good argument. ....EVER

[05omegav6]

Yes, but if I also mentioned the estate figures, 1865kgs 213bhp = 114.2 bhp/tonne...

Then there would be no argument at all, because inspite of being 165kgs heavier and in the wrong gear, it still kept up

[YZ250]

3.0i V6 24V Elite 4d Auto 9.0 secs 148 mph 207 bhp

3.2 V6 24V Elite 4d Auto (LT) 8.0 secs 149 mph 213 bhp

So which figure says the 3.0 is quicker. 

Ahem.. 3.2 Manual

 

ex plod ... not listed...   

Clearly

A 3.2 manual saloon should be 1640kgs 213bhp, well over 128bhp/tonne

Oi you two, as 3.2 owners you are both on the same side. 

[VXL V6]

What we need here is an MX5 

[05omegav6]

What we need here is an MX5 

[chrisgixer]

Yes, but if I also mentioned the estate figures, 1865kgs 213bhp = 114.2 bhp/tonne...

Then there would be no argument at all, because inspite of being 165kgs heavier and in the wrong gear, it still kept up

Yes I suppose it did. ....eventually

[VXL V6]

What we need here is an MX5 

[cem_devecioglu]

 




manuals vs autos must never be compared in terms of acceleration specifically from 0 ..  autos lock up very late..




manual 3.0 vs 3.2 still depends on the engine health and gear ratios as the power  difference really negligible..


and this is valid on a straight line..  when you introduce some curves it will include driver and things will really change

[Vamps]

What we need here is an MX5 

We certainly do, that would shut them up, as it is a proven fact that it is faster than any standard Mig............