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Re: 53 2.2 petrol auto CD - not starting after head gasket change
« Reply #30 on: 09 January 2015, 19:04:18 »
Have you tried using another compression gauge to make sure the original is working ok......to have zero p.s.i. points realy to valves opening at the wrong time allowing all the air to escape.....you say you have checked timing and all is lined up ok.......before you stripped the engine did you mark up the timing,camshaft ? crankshaft ? timing marks or marked it yourself ??? because never take any timing marks as correct as i have known them to be out ......as stated on here photos of the cam shafts and the way they are fitted may help because it does appear to point the fault in that direction..... :-\
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Re: 53 2.2 petrol auto CD - not starting after head gasket change
« Reply #31 on: 09 January 2015, 20:12:24 »
Im thinking he has inlet and exhaust mixed up or using the wrong marks on cam sprockets.
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Re: 53 2.2 petrol auto CD - not starting after head gasket change
« Reply #32 on: 09 January 2015, 22:17:08 »
thats my thinking also   as otherwise it does not make much sense...hope it turns out to be something simple for him after all of his efforts......must admit he has more patience than me .... :(
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Re: 53 2.2 petrol auto CD - not starting after head gasket change
« Reply #33 on: 17 January 2015, 10:56:45 »
Any news on this one  :-\
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Re: 53 2.2 petrol auto CD - not starting after head gasket change
« Reply #34 on: 17 January 2015, 14:43:48 »
I had  very similar problems after renewing my Desmond HG. In my case the cylinder test gauge was u/s and leading me in the wrong direction! Turned out to be a totally collapsed and blocked CAT probably caused by steam/water contamination during the time the HG was leaking until total failure :-\
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Re: 53 2.2 petrol auto CD - not starting after head gasket change
« Reply #35 on: 17 January 2015, 18:31:37 »
hi, thanks for you thoughts on this.

I've been away with work all week so not had a chance to get back to it yet. plus, it's freezing here at the mo.

I'll need to get hold of another tester to confirm compression first.  Only other thing I can think of is trying another head, but I can't find any at nearest breakers or online.

Probably wont get to look at the car again till next weekend, but please let me know if there are any other ideas.

Cheers
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Re: 53 2.2 petrol auto CD - not starting after head gasket change
« Reply #36 on: 17 January 2015, 19:00:51 »
Are you sure the cams are not mixed up  :-\
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Re: 53 2.2 petrol auto CD - not starting after head gasket change
« Reply #37 on: 17 January 2015, 20:12:28 »
Im sure i asked that  ;D
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Re: 53 2.2 petrol auto CD - not starting after head gasket change
« Reply #38 on: 17 January 2015, 20:15:59 »
I wouldn't try another head. I would check to see if the cams are correct. As mentioned above. Post some photos.
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Re: 53 2.2 petrol auto CD - not starting after head gasket change
« Reply #39 on: 17 January 2015, 20:52:25 »
once I get the snow cleared from the car I'll get the pics

is it worth removing the cams, so that all valves are closed and then turn the engine over to see if there is some or max compression or would this knacker more things up?

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« Reply #40 on: 17 January 2015, 20:58:14 »
We just need pics of the cam pulleys before you do anything else and they must be with cams in the timed position  :y
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Re: 53 2.2 petrol auto CD - not starting after head gasket change
« Reply #41 on: 18 January 2015, 09:37:57 »
Quote from: effinomega on 17 January 2015, 20:52:25
once I get the snow cleared from the car I'll get the pics

is it worth removing the cams, so that all valves are closed and then turn the engine over to see if there is some or max compression or would this knacker more things up?

No, do not remove the cams at this stage. As 4x4 said, take some photos of the cams in the timed position and let people see and advise you first.  :y
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Re: 53 2.2 petrol auto CD - not starting after head gasket change
« Reply #42 on: 18 January 2015, 10:33:03 »
ok, will do that first chance I get, probably wont be until end of this week though.  cheers
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Re: 53 2.2 petrol auto CD - not starting after head gasket change
« Reply #43 on: 19 January 2015, 20:54:52 »
some pics, not the best as difficult in the cold and crap lighting. 

crank mark is right on the timing pointer.


cam sprockets are both tdc with marks as noted when stripping.


cams - the intake wasn't separated from the sprocket so can't have moved.  exhaust cam and sprocket were split but are keyed back into same position.



here's hoping someone can see the pics and advise what to do next.  cheers

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Re: 53 2.2 petrol auto CD - not starting after head gasket change
« Reply #44 on: 19 January 2015, 21:14:36 »
Sorry mate cant see pics  :y
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