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[philhoward]

How about someone compiling a sticky for the top of General Help with a few pointers?  Perhaps a sticky at the top might make life easier - and saves the "New Section" argument until the thread reaches 17 pages....

Sort of a half way house - except it has the risk of less informative posts making it hard to read.  Try it and see how it goes?

[philhoward]

Spooky, Jay...great minds think alike, eh? [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

[Kevin Wood]

Rather than a sticky in general chat, I think we should have a LPG thread in the maintenance guides or HOWTO section, and a few of us who have "trodden the path" should keep it up to date, adding answers to any valid questions that arise elsewhere on the forum.

It will develop into a reference that we can refer posters to. Granted, it won't allow "LPG chat" but I'm not sure that's the main requirement. It will tidy up all of the general enquiries about LPG costs, fitting, etc and   "which ECU pin does xxx connect to?" questions though.

Obviously, having suggested it, I'm happy to do a brain dump into it.

Kevin

[Dazzler]

Rather than a sticky in general chat, I think we should have a LPG thread in the maintenance guides or HOWTO section, and a few of us who have "trodden the path" should keep it up to date, adding answers to any valid questions that arise elsewhere on the forum.

It will develop into a reference that we can refer posters to. Granted, it won't allow "LPG chat" but I'm not sure that's the main requirement. It will tidy up all of the general enquiries about LPG costs, fitting, etc and   "which ECU pin does xxx connect to?" questions though.

Obviously, having suggested it, I'm happy to do a brain dump into it.

Kevin

That sounds like a plan, and could be done by anyone and then just put in by the admins

[Lazydocker]

Whilst I can see both sides of the argument here, I personally feel that a section of it's own, or at least a sub section, is justified. Lpg running does require some specialist thingu which the standard mig doesn't have and also throws up problems unique to lpg power. At least in its own section other people who aren't interested can bypass it!

[Dazzler]

Please Admins.......pretty please

[TheBoy]

Whilst I can see both sides of the argument here, I personally feel that a section of it's own, or at least a sub section, is justified. Lpg running does require some specialist thingu which the standard mig doesn't have and also throws up problems unique to lpg power. At least in its own section other people who aren't interested can bypass it!

As do diesel engines. And Petrol engines. And 4 pots. And V6. And TD lump.

Adding that lot would make it a mess, hence we need to carefully consider whats best.

Rapid 'lets make another section without considering consequences' lead to the messy layout we have now, which we're looking at fixing before any new ones made.

[Lazydocker]

Whilst I can see both sides of the argument here, I personally feel that a section of it's own, or at least a sub section, is justified. Lpg running does require some specialist thingu which the standard mig doesn't have and also throws up problems unique to lpg power. At least in its own section other people who aren't interested can bypass it!

As do diesel engines. And Petrol engines. And 4 pots. And V6. And TD lump.

Adding that lot would make it a mess, hence we need to carefully consider whats best.

Rapid 'lets make another section without considering consequences' lead to the messy layout we have now, which we're looking at fixing before any new ones made.

Fair comment... Although I don't think the layout is particularly messy at the moment... In fact, it's considerably better than many other forums I have looked at/joined!

[JamesV6CDX]

Whilst I can see both sides of the argument here, I personally feel that a section of it's own, or at least a sub section, is justified. Lpg running does require some specialist thingu which the standard mig doesn't have and also throws up problems unique to lpg power. At least in its own section other people who aren't interested can bypass it!

As do diesel engines. And Petrol engines. And 4 pots. And V6. And TD lump.

Adding that lot would make it a mess, hence we need to carefully consider whats best.

Rapid 'lets make another section without considering consequences' lead to the messy layout we have now, which we're looking at fixing before any new ones made.

Views understood and for the most appreciated, but I think it's fair to say that an LPG section would be a lot more relavent and useful to a car forum, (which I guess is the sites aim?) than the majority of the content in General chat...

This sounds very harsh, but if we can have a section which is used largely for having a laugh and building the community (general chat) - and we can have one for In car Entertainment, then I think an LPG one is equally as justified.

If we wanted to reduce the number of boards, I would consider merging the maintenance guide and technical information boards.

[TheBoy]

Whilst I can see both sides of the argument here, I personally feel that a section of it's own, or at least a sub section, is justified. Lpg running does require some specialist thingu which the standard mig doesn't have and also throws up problems unique to lpg power. At least in its own section other people who aren't interested can bypass it!

As do diesel engines. And Petrol engines. And 4 pots. And V6. And TD lump.

Adding that lot would make it a mess, hence we need to carefully consider whats best.

Rapid 'lets make another section without considering consequences' lead to the messy layout we have now, which we're looking at fixing before any new ones made.

Views understood and for the most appreciated, but I think it's fair to say that an LPG section would be a lot more relavent and useful to a car forum, (which I guess is the sites aim?) than the majority of the content in General chat...

This sounds very harsh, but if we can have a section which is used largely for having a laugh and building the community (general chat) - and we can have one for In car Entertainment, then I think an LPG one is equally as justified.

If we wanted to reduce the number of boards, I would consider merging the maintenance guide and technical information boards.

But the same stretches for fuel types.  So you want one for LPG? I want one for diesel, being a tractor owner, and I'm sure the petrol boys will want one as well.  Do you want to be scrolling through and flicking between many boards like that?

I am certainly not against the idea, nor are the other Admins, I think we just need convincing that it is justified.  If it is justified, then the Admins need to consider the consequences of doing it before final decision is made.

TBH, I think a FAQ type thread would suit better  :-/

[TheBoy]

OH, and General Chat is most definately staying, not up for discussion.  It is key to the community here.

[JamesV6CDX]

OH, and General Chat is most definately staying, not up for discussion.  It is key to the community here.

Didn't say it shouldn't stay - every forum needs a general area!

How about merging maintenance guides and technical info sections?

Thing is, petrol engines, diesel engines etc, is all standard fitment -

LPG isn't, with lots more variables, different kit types, and therefore lots of new questions come up, which haven't been asked before.

Whereas with the V6/TD/16V engines you can bet your life if you do a good search the query will have been addressed on the forum before.

I'm not going to campaign for an LPG section, but I do think it would be useful to many.

[JamesV6CDX]

Just to add - a sticky in General help would be better than nothing.

[TheBoy]

OH, and General Chat is most definately staying, not up for discussion.  It is key to the community here.

Didn't say it shouldn't stay - every forum needs a general area!

How about merging maintenance guides and technical info sections?

Thing is, petrol engines, diesel engines etc, is all standard fitment -

LPG isn't, with lots more variables, different kit types, and therefore lots of new questions come up, which haven't been asked before.

Whereas with the V6/TD/16V engines you can bet your life if you do a good search the query will have been addressed on the forum before.

I'm not going to campaign for an LPG section, but I do think it would be useful to many.

Playing devils advocate here, so bear with me...

Std fitment engines are more common, hence surely should have their own sections. LPG fitted to probably less than 5% of our cars. Hardly warrants a section.

[TheBoy]

Just to add - a sticky in General help would be better than nothing.

I disagree entirely. Stickies are pointless, and useless. Nobody reads them, and they just take up space on the 1st page.

All stickies should be banned!  Trouble is, I'm outvoted on that one  

If a thread is popular enough, it will keep itself up.  As threads get longer, people can't be bothered, and they naturely die.  Stickies bypass the dying phase.

Take a look at the 'Legal' thread in genchat. Nobody really looks at it.

Take a look at the Forum Guidelines thread in every section - no bugger reads that either  


Fortuantely, we have a good Admin mob who can normally see a wider picture (I hate wankwords), so can lead to good pros/cons of ideas, rather than just create stuff without consideration of outcome, which would just end up with a tangled mess of nothing.