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[Webby the Bear]

The hobby bottles lasted long enough for my purposes. Some one on 'ere recommended bottles that had twice the usual capacity and these worked fine for me 

[EMD]

No point in going for a flux cored one, you might as well use stick!

Yeah think im jumping the gun a bit as it was tempting price  Guess ill burn through the omega door with stick but ill have a go with it set on low . I only want to test the beads , starting an arc and circles ect .

The hobby bottles lasted long enough for my purposes. Some one on 'ere recommended bottles that had twice the usual capacity and these worked fine for me 

Will have to see how i get on with this stick weld . A possible weld party in the future , mite call into that place you said for the box of metal .. near the Carlsburg place 

[Andy B]

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Yeah think im jumping the gun a bit as it was tempting price  Guess ill burn through the omega door with stick but ill have a go with it set on low . I only want to test the beads , starting an arc and circles ect . ....

On a car door you'll be burning through a nano second after you've struck the arc ...... there won't be time to see a circle or pool of weld   

[EMD]

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Yeah think im jumping the gun a bit as it was tempting price  Guess ill burn through the omega door with stick but ill have a go with it set on low . I only want to test the beads , starting an arc and circles ect . ....

On a car door you'll be burning through a nano second after you've struck the arc ...... there won't be time to see a circle or pool of weld   

Fair e nuff  I thought Omega door skins were like a tanks 

[Marks DTM Calib]

There about 1mm or maybe slightly more, certainly thicker than many!

If you want a challenge, do some welding on a transit or a French car....

[EMD]

There about 1mm or maybe slightly more, certainly thicker than many!

If you want a challenge, do some welding on a transit or a French car....

 Can you weld cheese  .. 

[TheBoy]

Clean metal is much easier. I've been making some shelving units to sit above my desk, and new metal is a joy to weld

[TheBoy]

I still badly struggle with "old/used" metal, even when cleaned, not sure why.

[YZ250]

I still badly struggle with "old/used" metal, even when cleaned, not sure why.

The clamping point will never carry the connection as cleanly through dirty metal, even when cleaned off. A classic example is when you strike up your mig welder and the wire curls away from the steel before it starts welding. 

[EMD]

First go at stick welding today , got the hang of it pretty quick and also noted that a steady hand is required  First bit was to weld two flat pieces of tube steel end to end together , tacked it all around then welded it up  Need more clamps 
Then i welded an extension bar on to my old car ramps , turned out not bad 
Happy with the first time experience and cant wait to master it , think im going a wee bit to fast on the weld as its leaving a few holes but will get better as i go on 

Got a burn hole in my jeans 

[EMD]

Am going to put Flashdance on the record player now and dance around in joy 

[tidla]

What do these poxy hobbie bottles cost these days?

What size are they?

[deviator]

First go at stick welding today , got the hang of it pretty quick and also noted that a steady hand is required  First bit was to weld two flat pieces of tube steel end to end together , tacked it all around then welded it up  Need more clamps 
Then i welded an extension bar on to my old car ramps , turned out not bad 
Happy with the first time experience and cant wait to master it , think im going a wee bit to fast on the weld as its leaving a few holes but will get better as i go on 

Got a burn hole in my jeans 

I did some unsupervised welding too. It was was manly, grinding, punching, drilling, countersinking, grinding, welding.

What do these poxy hobbie bottles cost these days?

What size are they?

I always thought they were an expensive option. A pub sized bottle of welding gas (DON'T USE PUB C02, it contains food additives that make your weld spatter) are 20 quid filled near me, I can't remember the prices for argon-shield, I haven't got that far yet. A regulator to take both types (pub and cone fit) of bottle is 20-30 on eBay. Job done.

[TheBoy]

What do these poxy hobbie bottles cost these days?

What size are they?

If starting from scratch, you're probably looking at £150 by time you have paid deposit on bottle and bought regulator and adapter. Rent free though

Can't remember what refills are, £35 for argon?

[EMD]

Is it normal practice to grind welds to tidy them up or should the weld be left as it is then painted  Obviously my welds look a bit crap at the minute  but with a flick of the angle grinder they look better