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cam cover sealent 2.6
« on: 07 May 2017, 11:24:57 »

I noticed on the guide for replacing cam cover gaskets that the vx black seslent is recommended, however I only have blue silicone sealent to hand. Is this ok to use or is the black stuff a must? Also i gathered from the guide that the inlet needs removed, are the gasket on this ok to reuse usually?
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Re: cam cover sealent 2.6
« Reply #1 on: 07 May 2017, 12:04:03 »

Whilst taking out the Driver side coil I was presented with this:



Spark plug drowned in oil. Wonder how I never noticed running problems? Anyone got a turkey needle :)
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Re: cam cover sealent 2.6
« Reply #2 on: 07 May 2017, 12:27:22 »

Ive seen much worse - the whole recess full of oil - so you've almost caught it in time. Ive only ever used the correct GM sealant so cant comment on alternatives. Inlet gaskets are fine to reuse over and over.
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Re: cam cover sealent 2.6
« Reply #3 on: 07 May 2017, 12:29:54 »

And NS takes the biscuit, back one full to the brim, others have oil in them too, and the rear spark plug boot thing came off



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Re: cam cover sealent 2.6
« Reply #4 on: 07 May 2017, 12:32:22 »

Ive seen much worse - the whole recess full of oil - so you've almost caught it in time. Ive only ever used the correct GM sealant so cant comment on alternatives. Inlet gaskets are fine to reuse over and over.

I hope so, not had any running probs so wouldn't have suspected it until it filled further and started running bad. Hope that boot thing detaching hasn't buggered anything else. I think I've answered my own question now about using anything other than the proper sealant!

Pity vx never installed 6 mini dipsticks so at least we could check if it was filling up!
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Re: cam cover sealent 2.6
« Reply #5 on: 07 May 2017, 12:38:49 »

All pretty much standard stuff.the oil does tend to soften and swell the coil pack rubbers so be gentle with them and clean them best you can with something that won't make them worse.brake or carb cleaner is designed to be ok on rubber.mine were just as bad if fact I think about 3 had detached themselves from the coil pack.all was cleaned up and checked for damage.i glued mine back on with superglue and all was well.if car was running ok before it should be ok after in theory (coil pack wise).soak up / remove / suck etc oil from plug wells you choice of method.like others will say ,I used gm sealant on cover gaskets but at the end of the day it's only a silicone sealant so another brand should be ok ,can't see why not.
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Re: cam cover sealent 2.6
« Reply #6 on: 07 May 2017, 13:11:32 »

Whilst cam.in.head's comment re sealer makes perfect sense, considering the work and aggro involved in replacing the cam covers, isn't it worth the fiver or so that Vx want for the recommended sealant?
Just to add, Serek did mine a year or so ago and my plug wells were brimming with oil and he warned about the likely need for new coil packs, because my rubbers were cracked and loose.
However (NOT to tempt fate, so shhh.....), they have been fine so far, no misfiring.

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Re: cam cover sealent 2.6
« Reply #7 on: 07 May 2017, 13:26:22 »

Will give them a clean with WD plus hose the oil out the plug holes with my garden hose (KIDDING :) ) hopefully should be ok as it looks more or less dry in the plug apertures on the packs. I imagine the rubber seals pretty well round the plugs so not much if any oil would have got inside.
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Re: cam cover sealent 2.6
« Reply #8 on: 07 May 2017, 13:46:11 »

Before I got to the "KIDDING" bit, I screamed internally as I read the first bit.
Ok, you got me!  :-[ :y

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Re: cam cover sealent 2.6
« Reply #9 on: 07 May 2017, 14:10:17 »

Will give them a clean with WD plus hose the oil out the plug holes with my garden hose (KIDDING :) ) hopefully should be ok as it looks more or less dry in the plug apertures on the packs. I imagine the rubber seals pretty well round the plugs so not much if any oil would have got inside.
You imagine wrong... any oil in the wells for any length of time and the boots eventually perish... they are ultimately variations of the same chemicals... if you've a misfire, then you're too late. Sure you might get another 6 months out of the boots once cleaned and dried and any oil leaks sorted, but don't expect them to survive this process ;)
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Re: cam cover sealent 2.6
« Reply #10 on: 07 May 2017, 16:50:24 »

Looking at the NS coil against the OS it looks worse underneath and there are a fair few wee cracks appearing where the metal inside has been rusting. Personally I'd like to replace the rusty one, is it that bad though or is this just superficial but will still hold out? I'm also concerned that when I was cleaning out the oil from inside the rubber boot, where the spring sits, the plastic collar disintegrated. As in first pic, might not be very clear but half of it fell off.



Better looking coil - no rust. Think this has possibly been replaced at some point


Coil with rust and plastic cracking
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Re: cam cover sealent 2.6
« Reply #11 on: 07 May 2017, 16:51:47 »

Before I got to the "KIDDING" bit, I screamed internally as I read the first bit.
Ok, you got me!  :-[ :y

Ron.

Lol I hope you didn't think I really meant it ?
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Re: cam cover sealent 2.6
« Reply #12 on: 07 May 2017, 16:55:08 »

Might as well mention this too, was cleaning out the breathers and tried cleaning out the two little pin holes on the top hat bit however when I block one end of the plenum breather thing - the 4 pipes - and blow through it nothing comes out the little pin holes? Yet I can stick a thin wire right into it.

Top hat with 2 pin holes. I was actually wondering if I could get a wee tune out of this, sort of like pan pipes but made by vauxhall!


I'll have mayo with that. The Y shaped pipe at the back was also clogged well up.
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Re: cam cover sealent 2.6
« Reply #13 on: 07 May 2017, 16:55:45 »

Nope - the "KIDDING"  brought my heart rate and blood pressure back to normal!  :y

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Re: cam cover sealent 2.6
« Reply #14 on: 07 May 2017, 16:58:40 »

Nope - the "KIDDING"  brought my heart rate and blood pressure back to normal!  :y

Ron.

Glad I was a sort of calming influence there then :)
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