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3.2 Rear Discs
« on: 19 February 2019, 12:46:16 »
Hi to all.  Think maybe be needing new rear discs (vented?) soonish.  Fitted Brembo to the front recently but can't seem to locate Brembo for the rear.  In any case, I know that some 'after' brands are rubbish but are there any other reliable makes (if indeed Brembo is?) you guys would swear by?  2002 3.2 Elite saloon.  Thanks in advance. Ant

PS.  as a by the way, What is the little amber light under the interior mirror that shines at night for?  Thanks
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Re: 3.2 Rear Discs
« Reply #1 on: 19 February 2019, 12:58:20 »
PS first... That's 'Indirect Night Lighting' for the centre console. Standard on Elite and part of the 'Rain Sensor Pack'  :y

TB will doubtless say that they are shit, but Apec do the job just make sure they are vented as solids will result in death*.

No excuses for not fitting genuine pads though as they are readily available on Ebay for £10-12 :y

*This might sound dramatic, but if you use solids, the pistons will eventually pass the seals as the pads wear, resulting in catastrophic fluid loss... The result of which will be soiled pants at best and total carnage and fatalities at worst.
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Re: 3.2 Rear Discs
« Reply #2 on: 19 February 2019, 20:56:50 »
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 19 February 2019, 12:58:20
PS first... That's 'Indirect Night Lighting' for the centre console. Standard on Elite and part of the 'Rain Sensor Pack'  :y

TB will doubtless say that they are shit, but Apec do the job just make sure they are vented as solids will result in death*.

No excuses for not fitting genuine pads though as they are readily available on Ebay for £10-12 :y

*This might sound dramatic, but if you use solids, the pistons will eventually pass the seals as the pads wear, resulting in catastrophic fluid loss... The result of which will be soiled pants at best and total carnage and fatalities at worst.

What he said  :y :y
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Re: 3.2 Rear Discs
« Reply #3 on: 19 February 2019, 21:13:07 »
With dg. I’ve always liked fitting apec. Their fitment has always been spot on and never had a complaint. Having said that I currently have mintex on the back. No complaints from me but I have heard some folk not get on with them 👍
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Re: 3.2 Rear Discs
« Reply #4 on: 20 February 2019, 16:53:31 »
Thanks to all for your replies and advice.  APEC(?) are available from where usually?  Although unavailable it seems, is Brembo a solid make then?  Thanks for the explanation of mirror light too - I moved an air freshener and noticed it for the first time in I won't tell you how many years I've had the car, cough cough.  Ant
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Re: 3.2 Rear Discs
« Reply #5 on: 20 February 2019, 16:59:21 »
We get Apec from Bedford Battery-tray. No idea if they’re a national firm or not
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Re: 3.2 Rear Discs
« Reply #6 on: 20 February 2019, 17:04:31 »
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Re: 3.2 Rear Discs
« Reply #7 on: 20 February 2019, 19:57:47 »
I'd go for ATE, same as original

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Re: 3.2 Rear Discs
« Reply #8 on: 24 February 2019, 09:21:05 »
On the back, most of the punishment comes from TC rather than braking. So anything really.

The stuff Brembo make for Omegas are the same shit made of cheese that all the pattern ones are.  I've tried a lot of them, including Mintex (and Apec Doctor G ;)), and they are utter shite, and invariably ended up going back to GM anyway.  So the cheap stuff just ends up costing more.

I'd learnt my lesson too many times with Omega brakes, so now I only buy GM brake parts for the Omega.  And I hate to see people waste money on the same mistakes I've wasted mine on, so forgive my passion over it.  I can see for the tunnies and Webbys of this world, a chocolate disc might last just long enough without distorting for the inner edge rust to kill it.  But for most of us, a 1.8t reasonably powerful car on small discs....


I should point out I work in MK, which if you don't drive like the locals does give the brakes a good workout.
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Re: 3.2 Rear Discs
« Reply #9 on: 24 February 2019, 10:45:30 »
Discs generally need changing every 2 or 3 pad changes regardless of make.  ;)
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Re: 3.2 Rear Discs
« Reply #10 on: 24 February 2019, 10:51:50 »
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 24 February 2019, 10:45:30
Discs generally need changing every 2 or 3 pad changes regardless of make.  ;)
Yup.  Not after 2-4 months, which is what I was getting from the patterns...
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Re: 3.2 Rear Discs
« Reply #11 on: 24 February 2019, 13:10:57 »
Quote from: TheBoy on 24 February 2019, 10:51:50
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 24 February 2019, 10:45:30
Discs generally need changing every 2 or 3 pad changes regardless of make.  ;)
Yup.  Not after 2-4 months, which is what I was getting from the patterns...
Fundamentally boils down to pad wear rates. I rarely saw 10k from the front pads, and possibly 15-20 from the rears...
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Re: 3.2 Rear Discs
« Reply #12 on: 24 February 2019, 13:25:04 »
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 24 February 2019, 13:10:57
Quote from: TheBoy on 24 February 2019, 10:51:50
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 24 February 2019, 10:45:30
Discs generally need changing every 2 or 3 pad changes regardless of make.  ;)
Yup.  Not after 2-4 months, which is what I was getting from the patterns...
Fundamentally boils down to pad wear rates. I rarely saw 10k from the front pads, and possibly 15-20 from the rears...


And the front pads on mine did over 50k....


I wish they had some markings left on them so I could have bought some more.


I've only ever had to replace one clutch in over 30 years of averaging 25k per annum


over 25k miles from a set of 17" tyres; I reckon about 32k from a set of Capri tyres, which is apparently impossible.



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Re: 3.2 Rear Discs
« Reply #13 on: 24 February 2019, 13:41:25 »
Quote from: Nick W on 24 February 2019, 13:25:04
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 24 February 2019, 13:10:57
Quote from: TheBoy on 24 February 2019, 10:51:50
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 24 February 2019, 10:45:30
Discs generally need changing every 2 or 3 pad changes regardless of make.  ;)
Yup.  Not after 2-4 months, which is what I was getting from the patterns...
Fundamentally boils down to pad wear rates. I rarely saw 10k from the front pads, and possibly 15-20 from the rears...


And the front pads on mine did over 50k....


I wish they had some markings left on them so I could have bought some more.


I've only ever had to replace one clutch in over 30 years of averaging 25k per annum
 

over 25k miles from a set of 17" tyres; I reckon about 32k from a set of Capri tyres, which is apparently impossible.

It all comes down to how an individual drives their car.

I used to get 30k miles from a set of tyres on my company Escort Mk1, whilst a male colleague was lucky to get 10k out of a set on exactly the same model, as he screamed away from junctions with wheels spinning and rubber burning ::) ::)  He certainly got some bollockings from our boss!!  :D
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« Reply #14 on: 24 February 2019, 14:12:10 »
That was whilst hacking it around as a cab... Time is money and all that :D
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