Omega Owners Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Please check the Forum Guidelines at the top of the Newbie section

Pages: 1 [2] 3  All   Go Down

Author Topic: Big rise in cost of air con servicing.  (Read 9115 times)

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

Doctor Gollum

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • In a colds and darks puddleses
  • Posts: 30175
  • If you can't eat them, join them...
    • Feetses.
    • View Profile
Re: Big rise in cost of air con servicing.
« Reply #15 on: 23 March 2019, 13:45:48 »
Quote from: Kevin Wood on 23 March 2019, 11:39:45
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 23 March 2019, 11:02:16
Opening the windows is free!  :y

So far....  :-\  ;D

.. as is not having a roof. :y

(recalls the big folder full of Westfield receipts)

OK, I lied. :P
When the top goes down, the price goes up.

No top is obviously worth more :D
Logged
Onanists always think outside the box.

Sir Tigger KC

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • West Dorset
  • Posts: 24885
    • BMW 530d Touring
    • View Profile
Re: Big rise in cost of air con servicing.
« Reply #16 on: 23 March 2019, 14:16:38 »
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 23 March 2019, 11:02:16
Opening the windows is free!  :y

So far....  :-\  ;D

Actually scrap that as I'm sure that there will be an EU Directive along soon decreeing that windows must be fully closed when a vehicle is travelling over 15 kmh for fuel saving and air quality purposes!  ::)  ;D
Logged
RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

Politically homeless ......

Lizzie Zoom

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Female
  • South
  • Posts: 7569
    • Omega 3.2 V6 ELITE 2003
    • View Profile
Re: Big rise in cost of air con servicing.
« Reply #17 on: 23 March 2019, 16:41:20 »
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 23 March 2019, 11:32:29
Quote from: Lizzie Zoom on 23 March 2019, 11:23:17
Just another cost in keeping our beloved Omega's going! ::) ::)

Still, I believe the costs are still better than buying a new, boring, car once depreciation, tax, and all the other costs are taken in to account.

Miss not having "free" company cars though every two years.  That is the way to have a car!! ;D ;D ;)
Not an exclusive Omega problem but one that affects a large percentage of cars over time ;)

That is what I do not understand DG.  What are the differences between the various AC gases?  Why is the one for Omega's 'special' enough to become "rationed" and thus more expensive?  Cannot another gas be used in our Miggy's?  ??? ??? ;)
Logged

Doctor Gollum

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • In a colds and darks puddleses
  • Posts: 30175
  • If you can't eat them, join them...
    • Feetses.
    • View Profile
Re: Big rise in cost of air con servicing.
« Reply #18 on: 23 March 2019, 16:48:38 »
Not an Omega specific item by any stretch of the imagination.

R134a replaced R12 through the late '80s/early '90s.

Stands to reason that 30 years later R134a should be replaced.

As to the second question, in theory yes. Provided the seals are compatible or have been replaced with ones that are.

Whether this is cost effective or not on a 20 year old Vauxhall is a very different question.
Logged
Onanists always think outside the box.

Lizzie Zoom

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Female
  • South
  • Posts: 7569
    • Omega 3.2 V6 ELITE 2003
    • View Profile
Re: Big rise in cost of air con servicing.
« Reply #19 on: 23 March 2019, 16:58:15 »
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 23 March 2019, 16:48:38
Not an Omega specific item by any stretch of the imagination.

R134a replaced R12 through the late '80s/early '90s.

Stands to reason that 30 years later R134a should be replaced.

As to the second question, in theory yes. Provided the seals are compatible or have been replaced with ones that are.

Whether this is cost effective or not on a 20 year old Vauxhall is a very different question.

Thanks for that DG :-* :-* :y

Over the last three years I have replaced the A/C condenser and compressor, with it all being done by a VX main dealer.  I will have to enquire what gas they put in, and the seals used, as this year it is due to be replaced. ;)
« Last Edit: 23 March 2019, 17:02:07 by Lizzie Zoom »
Logged

Doctor Gollum

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • In a colds and darks puddleses
  • Posts: 30175
  • If you can't eat them, join them...
    • Feetses.
    • View Profile
Re: Big rise in cost of air con servicing.
« Reply #20 on: 23 March 2019, 17:43:13 »
There are various seals throughout the system, including at the evaporator behind the dash...
Logged
Onanists always think outside the box.

Lizzie Zoom

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Female
  • South
  • Posts: 7569
    • Omega 3.2 V6 ELITE 2003
    • View Profile
Re: Big rise in cost of air con servicing.
« Reply #21 on: 23 March 2019, 17:58:20 »
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 23 March 2019, 17:43:13
There are various seals throughout the system, including at the evaporator behind the dash...

Ok :y :y
Logged

BazaJT

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • SLady bitshorpe N.Lincs.
  • Posts: 9298
    • Omega 3 litre Elite
    • View Profile
Re: Big rise in cost of air con servicing.
« Reply #22 on: 23 March 2019, 18:08:26 »
Never knew you had to replace refrigerant on a time basis.Only car I've had with working aircon was the XJ6 and I didn't have that replaced in 8yrs of ownership.Glad it doesn't work on the Omega...that's another expense spared :D
Logged

Lizzie Zoom

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Female
  • South
  • Posts: 7569
    • Omega 3.2 V6 ELITE 2003
    • View Profile
Re: Big rise in cost of air con servicing.
« Reply #23 on: 23 March 2019, 18:27:45 »
Quote from: BazaJT on 23 March 2019, 18:08:26
Never knew you had to replace refrigerant on a time basis.Only car I've had with working aircon was the XJ6 and I didn't have that replaced in 8yrs of ownership.Glad it doesn't work on the Omega...that's another expense spared :D

The information I have had for some years now, gained on the OOF, is that the a/c gas losses 10% of it's ability to do it's job every year. I have also experienced the affects of a car that has not had a gas replacement for 5 years. It is very infective! ;)
Logged

Doctor Gollum

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • In a colds and darks puddleses
  • Posts: 30175
  • If you can't eat them, join them...
    • Feetses.
    • View Profile
Re: Big rise in cost of air con servicing.
« Reply #24 on: 23 March 2019, 18:41:40 »
The system is deemed sealed if it contains loses of upto 10% per year. Some cars will hold it for longer. Aircon systems are generally aluminium which can become porous over time.
Logged
Onanists always think outside the box.

STEMO

  • Guest
Re: Big rise in cost of air con servicing.
« Reply #25 on: 23 March 2019, 19:29:30 »
My astra is 5 years old, never had a regas, and is very cold.
Logged

TheBoy

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Brackley, Northants
  • Posts: 107162
  • I Like Lockdown
    • Whatever Starts
    • View Profile
Re: Big rise in cost of air con servicing.
« Reply #26 on: 24 March 2019, 09:57:59 »
Quote from: STEMO on 23 March 2019, 19:29:30
My astra is 5 years old, never had a regas, and is very cold.
A new car is normally good for approaching 10yrs.  But as the system ages, it loses it more quickly.
Logged
Grumpy old man

ronnyd

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Bury St Edmunds Suffolk
  • Posts: 9285
    • Vectra 1.8 SRI Silver
    • View Profile
Re: Big rise in cost of air con servicing.
« Reply #27 on: 24 March 2019, 10:10:11 »
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 23 March 2019, 14:16:38
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 23 March 2019, 11:02:16
Opening the windows is free!  :y

So far....  :-\  ;D

Actually scrap that as I'm sure that there will be an EU Directive along soon decreeing that windows must be fully closed when a vehicle is travelling over 15 kmh for fuel saving and air quality purposes!  ::)  ;D
Do you mean to keep all the "old man" fart smells in? :D
Logged

Sir Tigger KC

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • West Dorset
  • Posts: 24885
    • BMW 530d Touring
    • View Profile
Re: Big rise in cost of air con servicing.
« Reply #28 on: 24 March 2019, 11:48:38 »
Quote from: ronnyd on 24 March 2019, 10:10:11
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 23 March 2019, 14:16:38
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 23 March 2019, 11:02:16
Opening the windows is free!  :y

So far....  :-\  ;D

Actually scrap that as I'm sure that there will be an EU Directive along soon decreeing that windows must be fully closed when a vehicle is travelling over 15 kmh for fuel saving and air quality purposes!  ::)  ;D
Do you mean to keep all the "old man" fart smells in? :D

Exactly!  :y

Imagine following Uncle STEMO down the M62 when he's got the windows open?!  :o  ;D
Logged
RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

Politically homeless ......

STEMO

  • Guest
Re: Big rise in cost of air con servicing.
« Reply #29 on: 24 March 2019, 14:27:05 »
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 24 March 2019, 11:48:38
Quote from: ronnyd on 24 March 2019, 10:10:11
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 23 March 2019, 14:16:38
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 23 March 2019, 11:02:16
Opening the windows is free!  :y

So far....  :-\  ;D

Actually scrap that as I'm sure that there will be an EU Directive along soon decreeing that windows must be fully closed when a vehicle is travelling over 15 kmh for fuel saving and air quality purposes!  ::)  ;D
Do you mean to keep all the "old man" fart smells in? :D

Exactly!  :y

Imagine following Uncle STEMO down the M62 when he's got the windows open?!  :o  ;D
I wouldn't worry about it too much, I doubt you'd be able to keep up.  :)
Logged
Pages: 1 [2] 3  All   Go Up
« previous next »
 

Page created in 0.015 seconds with 16 queries.