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[TheBoy]

The china flu might not have even been a factor in their death.  They could have tested positive 27 days ago. 

True. But they is nothing to say either way.  And I wouldn't expect any organisation to release private, personal information.

[Lizzie Zoom]

The china flu might not have even been a factor in their death.  They could have tested positive 27 days ago. 

True. But they is nothing to say either way.  And I wouldn't expect any organisation to release private, personal information.

No, apart from the tabloid newspapers or social media

[Sir Tigger KC]

Sajid Javid has apparently announced this afternoon that the Vaccine Passport will only be valid with two jabs and a booster after a reasonable time for folks to get their booster jab.  Sounds reasonable enough right?

So how long before the goalposts are moved again and you need a fourth, fifth, sixth jab to keep the vaccine passport valid?

How long before the use of the vaccine passport is expanded to the extent that you cannot lead a normal life unless you comply like they have done in Lithuania?

[Doctor Gollum]

And at what point, as an individual, does one* draw the line?

*The Royal one as opposed to the personal one...

[dave the builder]

I will repeat AGAIN for the stupid and / or DGAF people ....

Omicron may well be mild BUT WE DON'T KNOW YET ! for sure,
It is highly contagious (R naught of 3.47) compared to the original Wuhan strain  .

The fact that Omicron Mutated by combining with Flu to become more infectious shows how easy it could mutate or combine with something very deadly that we don't have the cure for   

Jabs are not the whole solution yet ,more measures are needed right now ,plan B, plan C ,whatever to keep the Covid in hospitals low enough for the NHS to "scrape by" (but not clear the now 7 million person waiting list )

The more people whinge about wearing a mask, not wanting a jab etc and don't follow the rules or TRY and be safe  , the longer the NHS waiting list will grow ,and the more people will die , be that Omicron Covid ,Delta covid, cancer, that bus that seems to kill so many  or heart problems or whatever .

 

hopefully in the future there will be vaccines that do work very well and keep hospitals clear of Covid patients  and the NHS can start to clear the backlog . that will involve new staff ,which can't be trained overnight ,it takes time ,much better planning etc .

As DG's Leeds Covid death field Idea has not happened  we all have to do what we can to "get by" right now

get jabbed, wear a mask in shops etc , follow the rules (despite Boris and his pals incompetence)

until there is a perminant solution to the situation  .

[Sir Tigger KC]

Omicron may well be mild BUT WE DON'T KNOW YET ! for sure,

Yes we do.  The South Africans have been saying it's mild for a month now, but it seems that nobody in the British Government or the corrupt media are listening! 

Vaccination rates are about 25% in RSA, whereas it's estimated that over 90% of folk in the UK have antibodies from vaccination or infection. 

People need to get a flippin grip! 

[Doctor Gollum]

And getting on with things* is not the same as DGAF. 

*Even if that means wearing a mask when required and generally avoiding people

And FYI, viruses have been mutating since Amoebae started growing limbs so that it is more virilant having merged with the common cold, possibly the secondmost virilant thing on earth (after Faceachebook) is not a surprise.

Hopefully it will infect everyone before Friday and we can then get back to getting on with life.

[dave the builder]

As neither of you pair agree with the current governments response to Covid 

What is your solution ?

[Doctor Gollum]

Let it spread freely and move on.

Especially as it's already spread freely.

[dave the builder]

Let it spread freely and move on.

Especially as it's already spread freely.

The Government tried herd immunity last year for about 3 days
the maths showed millions would die , and mutations would see survivors die later  .

you won't win many votes with that flawed approach

do you have a workable solution  other than the UK's current effort or just like to windge  ?

[Doctor Gollum]

Failing to completely seal the borders in November 2019 meant it was always guaranteed to spread.

Trying something for three days is hardly trying.

And why politicise it? It serves no purpose and makes people get annoyed with whatever decision is made to the point where they won't bother voting. For anything.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Thank God the hundreds of thousands of us who take all this seriously are forming very long queues to get jabbed.

In fact the system is creaking under the pressure of those wanting to do the right thing

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I will repeat AGAIN for the stupid and / or DGAF people ....

Omicron may well be mild BUT WE DON'T KNOW YET ! for sure,
It is highly contagious (R naught of 3.47) compared to the original Wuhan strain  .

The fact that Omicron Mutated by combining with Flu to become more infectious shows how easy it could mutate or combine with something very deadly that we don't have the cure for   

Jabs are not the whole solution yet ,more measures are needed right now ,plan B, plan C ,whatever to keep the Covid in hospitals low enough for the NHS to "scrape by" (but not clear the now 7 million person waiting list )

The more people whinge about wearing a mask, not wanting a jab etc and don't follow the rules or TRY and be safe  , the longer the NHS waiting list will grow ,and the more people will die , be that Omicron Covid ,Delta covid, cancer, that bus that seems to kill so many  or heart problems or whatever .

 

hopefully in the future there will be vaccines that do work very well and keep hospitals clear of Covid patients  and the NHS can start to clear the backlog . that will involve new staff ,which can't be trained overnight ,it takes time ,much better planning etc .

As DG's Leeds Covid death field Idea has not happened  we all have to do what we can to "get by" right now

get jabbed, wear a mask in shops etc , follow the rules (despite Boris and his pals incompetence)

until there is a perminant solution to the situation  .

There are many reasons why people choose not to be jabbed, Dave It has very little to do with being awkward or selfish.

News is also emerging that the vaccine is not as safe as the government would like us to believe.

Have it or don't have it. I've said before I'm quite happy to mix with the unvaccinated.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Thank God the hundreds of thousands of us who take all this seriously are forming very long queues to get jabbed.

In fact the system is creaking under the pressure of those wanting to do the right thing

Think of all the brownie points you have.

[dave the builder]

Failing to completely seal the borders in November 2019 meant it was always guaranteed to spread.

Trying something for three days is hardly trying.

And why politicise it? It serves no purpose and makes people get annoyed with whatever decision is made to the point where they won't bother voting. For anything.

"hindsight is a wonderful thing"
even with hindsight ,it doesn't solve the problem we all find our selves in now .
had "herd immunity" been the UK's approach last year then we'd still have high death rates with mutations etc .
some Doctors, scientists , etc would have died as part of the massive "herd immunity" first wave.
maybe even those who worked on the current Vaccine 

We don't live in South Africa, the UK is very different.

the UK's  current approach to Covid is all we have for now, based on advice of doctor's, specialists etc
Whist Boris is clearly not fit to do the job of PM  ,I don't see who could wave a magic wand and resolve the situation .

I'd rather pay £22 a month for internet than get it "free" with the alternate Government