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[STEMO]

All of that is true, Albs, but we can't change the result of a general election like some banana republic. We're stuck with them, and it's just a case of trying to play them at their own game by undermining their authority.
We are are now considered dinosaurs, and I take a kind of evil delight reminding the Labour voters around here that they deserve everything they get. How do you think ex-miners feel about all the woke shite that 'their' party is enacting? Not good, I can tell you. But they, too, are dinosaurs.

We ARE a banana republic already. Democracy, like free speech, is dead – or at least on life-support. As for undermining their authority, well good luck with that!

So...what did you just say? What are you proposing? A good moan?

[STEMO]

You can undermine their agenda every day. By buying a diesel car, by refusing to get a smart meter, by ignoring their woke agenda and grouping with like minded people. By not taking them, or yourself, too seriously. Hopefully, this shit will pass. I intend to live the way I've always lived, and I won't let others change that.

[Raeturbo]

Excellent moaning that man 🥇🥇👍

[STEMO]

Excellent moaning that man 🥇🥇👍

Bet you don't get many pride marches in the valleys, Dai. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Excellent moaning that man 🥇🥇👍

Bet you don't get many pride marches in the valleys, Dai. 

He's the only gay in the village! 

[STEMO]

Excellent moaning that man 🥇🥇👍

Bet you don't get many pride marches in the valleys, Dai. 

He's the only gay in the village! 

He shags rams??? 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Excellent moaning that man 🥇🥇👍

Bet you don't get many pride marches in the valleys, Dai. 

He's the only gay in the village! 

He shags rams??? 

Given half a chance?    Who knows....                                                                                       

[ronnyd]

Excellent moaning that man 🥇🥇👍

Bet you don't get many pride marches in the valleys, Dai. 

He's the only gay in the village! 

He shags rams??? 

Easier to get hold of.

[Raeturbo]

Bit of mint and lipstick and they’re all the same to me🤣🐑🐏🐩 oops

[YZ250]

My dislike of Labour leaders is the inability to answer one single question with anything other than "We inherited a 22 billion pound black hole". It's getting really boring now. 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

And afaik there has been no detail or explanation at all of this alleged black hole. 

[Rangie]

You can undermine their agenda every day. By buying a diesel car, by refusing to get a smart meter, by ignoring their woke agenda and grouping with like minded people. By not taking them, or yourself, too seriously. Hopefully, this shit will pass. I intend to live the way I've always lived, and I won't let others change that.

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I'm with you Steve & I would imagine most people of our age think exactly the same 👍

[Doctor Gollum]

And afaik there has been no detail or explanation at all of this alleged black hole. 

That's the thing with imaginary money from imaginary money trees...

It's easy for them to blame the Tories, but the reality is we're already still paying for the last Labour government.

Sure with this petition, there will lots of conservative voters sticking a boot in, but I would wager that the majority are people who voted Labour having voted Tory for the first time at the last election...

[TheBoy]

If a government is elected on a set manifesto, then ignores it, that ain't a democracy!!

Well it is, isn't it.

Everybody with half a brain cell knew Labour were going to kill business with taxation, yet "we" still voted them in.

If people are stupid enough to believe politicians, they need culling...

[Sir Tigger KC]

If a government is elected on a set manifesto, then ignores it, that ain't a democracy!!

Well it is, isn't it.

Everybody with half a brain cell knew Labour were going to kill business with taxation, yet "we" still voted them in.

If people are stupid enough to believe politicians, they need culling...

I don't think that people believed TTK when he said that they wouldn't put up taxes, they just stupidly thought that Labour couldn't be much worse than the Tories.  Ooops!