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[TheBoy]

I would be doing ~80 miles a day, if she does not get the bus. So enough to top-up via home charger overnight. As you say if I do a long road trip at the weekend, I would not be able to fill it in via a home charger, but maybe enough to do the work run.

If that is a lot of motorway miles, you probably won't be able to refill enough to replace what you used in that day, hence me saying your range would reduce throughout the week.  Most cheap rates are only for around 5hrs.

If you use less at weekend, obviously it can start Monday morning again with a full tank

Work EV charging is no longer free, but 20p kWH so about as cheap as you can get away from home.

On the right tariffs, you should be paying way less than 10p at home on cheap rate.

Our place doesn't offer EV charging.  In fact, none of our office locations outside of Lazydocker land offer any parking.  Eedjits.

[TheBoy]

not a patch on the I-Pace though which is 'proper posh'

But £80k. And no longer available.  Even if they did have to give the last ones away

I liked the I-Pace, ignoring the EV bits, its a car I could easily live with.  But JLR never really did anything to it in its lifetime, and started to feel less up to date.

[tunnie]

I'm expecting 7.5p at home per kWh, Octopus though offer some interesting deals, with sometimes 50% off if you charge that night, but don't charge the next day! 

Maybe half of it would be motorway, I'm wiggling my way from Camberley to Woking, then to M25. So should be able to get some regen in on that kind of run.

Sky is not bad for charging support. 66 spaces here at the HQ across 3 car parks. You can book them ahead, which has a perk of also booking a parking space

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

not a patch on the I-Pace though which is 'proper posh'

But £80k. And no longer available.  Even if they did have to give the last ones away

I liked the I-Pace, ignoring the EV bits, its a car I could easily live with. But JLR never really did anything to it in its lifetime, and started to feel less up to date.

Charge speed is the biggest flaw at only 100Kw......but with a home charger this is not a problem unless you drive more than 220-240 miles each day.

Great to drive though and 512 lb ft of 'twist' gives instant acceleration.

At £80,000+ forget it......but at £38000 for the bells and whistle HSE 2025 (25 plate) it makes more sense.....although it will still depreciate like just about anything with 4 wheels and a Jaguar badge.  

[TheBoy]

I'm expecting 7.5p at home per kWh, Octopus though offer some interesting deals, with sometimes 50% off if you charge that night, but don't charge the next day! 

Gixer is telling me he is paying 7p, I think that is Octopus

Maybe half of it would be motorway, I'm wiggling my way from Camberley to Woking, then to M25. So should be able to get some regen in on that kind of run.

I don't think you'll see much range benefit of regen.  In an ideal world, you could turn that off and coast and probably save more, but its all down to other traffic and driving styles.

Motorway speeds do eat power on EVs, more dramatically than ICE cars.  Trouble is, until you actually get one, you simply won't know how well it works for you.  Personally, I'm not prepared to piss around with public charge points, even ignoring the costs involved.  Others are more willing to take a break in their journey.  Which is why we are at a point, with our usage, where EVs keep disappearing off our list of potential replacement cars for her XE.

Sky is not bad for charging support. 66 spaces here at the HQ across 3 car parks. You can book them ahead, which has a perk of also booking a parking space

The building I'm in has 6 parking spaces for the building, our company has 4500 people there across about 10 floors, a government agency has several floors in same building.  You have to be a special spacca to be able to use one of those 6.

And, as its in Birmingham, you can't use public carparks.  So I have to tolerate the crap entity known as Chiltern.  Which reminds me, I have another compo claim to pop in, as my choo choo to London was 'dangle berries'ed by a signalling fault at Wembley.

[TheBoy]

but with a home charger this is not a problem unless you drive more than 220-240 miles each day.

Assuming you need to use it on consecutive days, you're probably in the realms of a max of 60-80 miles a day, if you want to use cheap rate home charging only.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I'm expecting 7.5p at home per kWh, Octopus though offer some interesting deals, with sometimes 50% off if you charge that night, but don't charge the next day! 

Maybe half of it would be motorway, I'm wiggling my way from Camberley to Woking, then to M25. So should be able to get some regen in on that kind of run.

Sky is not bad for charging support. 66 spaces here at the HQ across 3 car parks. You can book them ahead, which has a perk of also booking a parking space

We are with Octopussy but don't use 7.5p electricity because the remainder of electric is charged at a much higher rate.......car will probably cover less than 5000 miles a year.

However, if you do a lot of mileage it may well work out better.

I think we pay 24.12p (inc VAT) a KHh for all electricity.

We take advantage when Octopussy offer free electricity though......usually 2-4 hours each month at present.

[TheBoy]

Its quite telling in these parts, lots of people have had home chargers fitted, but virtually nobody has an EV now.

I guess thats a combo of the required range to commute, car tax and BIKs, plus a general increase in lease costs driven by high insurance and massive depreciation costs, making the maths swing a bit back towards diesel.

The HS2 mob will tell me that the trains are taking up the slack.  Tunnie's old favourite Bicester North station long ago closed the multistorey carpark, and the 2 lower carparks, all of which used to be fairly rammed.  So clearly Chiltern aren't taking up any slack

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Its quite telling in these parts, lots of people have had home chargers fitted, but virtually nobody has an EV now.

I guess thats a combo of the required range to commute, car tax and BIKs, plus a general increase in lease costs driven by high insurance and massive depreciation costs, making the maths swing a bit back towards diesel.

The HS2 mob will tell me that the trains are taking up the slack.  Tunnie's old favourite Bicester North station long ago closed the multistorey carpark, and the 2 lower carparks, all of which used to be fairly rammed.  So clearly Chiltern aren't taking up any slack

I drive something with 6 inline cylinders and a petrol engine as much as possible.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Ive heard that Insurance is much more expensive on EV,s. Is this true ?

[tunnie]

Ive heard that Insurance is much more expensive on EV,s. Is this true ?

Won't affect me via the salary deals, but heard they can be more.

[tunnie]

I'm expecting 7.5p at home per kWh, Octopus though offer some interesting deals, with sometimes 50% off if you charge that night, but don't charge the next day! 

Maybe half of it would be motorway, I'm wiggling my way from Camberley to Woking, then to M25. So should be able to get some regen in on that kind of run.

Sky is not bad for charging support. 66 spaces here at the HQ across 3 car parks. You can book them ahead, which has a perk of also booking a parking space

We are with Octopussy but don't use 7.5p electricity because the remainder of electric is charged at a much higher rate.......car will probably cover less than 5000 miles a year.

However, if you do a lot of mileage it may well work out better.

I think we pay 24.12p (inc VAT) a KHh for all electricity.

We take advantage when Octopussy offer free electricity though......usually 2-4 hours each month at present.

Yeah they get you with the day time rate going up!

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

If I had one I could charge it for free at work, but I will only be working for a maximum of another four years, so probably wont bother.

[TheBoy]

Ive heard that Insurance is much more expensive on EV,s. Is this true ?

Won't affect me via the salary deals, but heard they can be more.

It'll effectively make the monthly costs increase, though that is set at the start for the term.  Our scheme has some quite high excess on EVs (something like £750).

[Viral_Jim]

but with a home charger this is not a problem unless you drive more than 220-240 miles each day.

Assuming you need to use it on consecutive days, you're probably in the realms of a max of 60-80 miles a day, if you want to use cheap rate home charging only.

From my experience, that's possibly a bit pessimistic. My lifetime average according to the app (which is close enough that I CBA to work out the actuals after the first 3 months of ownership) is apparently 3.1 miles per kwh, which means 217 miles per 'tank'. On a miles basis >90% of its work is motorway; either Telford -> Warwick (me), Telford -> Northampton (her) or 3 junctions up the M54 (School run). She drives everywhere on the speed limit, I drive at around 80 leptons when traffic permits, but given we commute, there's a fair bit of stop-start involved along with the poxy variable speed limits around Brummie land. If I have late meetings, speed goes up, range comes down, 1.7 miles per kwh is the worst I've seen iirc. 

Octopus gives me 6hrs per day at 7p (down from 7.5p earlier this year) so that's a theoretical 42kwh per day, although admittedly its probably closer to 35 ish. Even so, the tesla would be more efficient (3.5+ miles per kwh at least) so should be able to maintain 120+ miles per day. Also, in fairness to Octopus, if I plug in when I get home at 7pm, they usually find more than 6hrs of cheap electricity between then and my usual leave time of around 5-5.30am.