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[cem_devecioglu]

My brother-in-law started his very successful motor bodyshop repair business in a Downham, Bromley, back street and I remember once he had an American 1930's car in called a 'Pilot'.

The most impressive thing it was equipped with was an integral jacking system built into the car to raise it for replacing wheels 8-) 8-) 8-)

Why are modern cars not so equipped? :-/ :-/ :-/

reason is firms are trying to avoid any extra expense  

[Andy B]

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The most impressive thing it was equipped with was an integral jacking system built into the car to raise it for replacing wheels 8-) 8-) 8-)

Why are modern cars not so equipped? :-/ :-/ :-/

As did cars this side of the pond. I think the 58/59 Austin Princess had the same.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

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The most impressive thing it was equipped with was an integral jacking system built into the car to raise it for replacing wheels 8-) 8-) 8-)

Why are modern cars not so equipped? :-/ :-/ :-/

As did cars this side of the pond. I think the 58/59 Austin Princess had the same.

....and the Westminster's of this era?

[Andy B]

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....and the Westminster's of this era?

Don't know   If it's the Farina styled car, then I don't think so.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

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....and the Westminster's of this era?

Don't know   If it's the Farina styled car, then I don't think so.

I was thinking of the big (2.5 / 3 ton?) Austin Westminster that was a different version of the Princess, used as 'official' cars as the Omega was, but perhaps I am confused by the 1964 model my father-in-law owned in 1972!
 

[Andy B]

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I was thinking of the big (2.5 / 3 ton?) Austin Westminster that was a different version of the Princess, used as 'official' cars as the Omega was, but perhaps I am confused by the 1964 model my father-in-law owned in 1972!
 

Could be then, they were all a little before my time though!    

[Lizzie_Zoom]

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I was thinking of the big (2.5 / 3 ton?) Austin Westminster that was a different version of the Princess, used as 'official' cars as the Omega was, but perhaps I am confused by the 1964 model my father-in-law owned in 1972!
 

Could be then, they were all a little before my time though!    

That's what really worries me now; I mention things like a Westminster that I drove as a 18 year old young woman (with no power steering!) and everyone including you Andy state "before my time"!

It's not fair!!

[Omegatoy]

well if it helps, had a wolesley 6/110 that had a westinghouse gearbox which only needed the clutch to pull away all other changes were just the lever(magic) and it had a built in self lifter for changing the wheels,
also had a starting handle!!!but that 2.6 straight six took some effort to get cranking on the handle!!! maybe that was the car you were thinking of Liz? they were very similar looking to the one you mentioned

[Lizzie_Zoom]

For all that do not know of them this is what an Austin Westminster of the 1960's looked like:



A wonderful classic heavy (not suitable for scissor jacks, but had if I remember correctly pillar jacks) well appointed executive British car, but without power steering which made driving them very hard until you got used to it!

They later made great 'destruction derby' cars as well!

[Omegatoy]

damn comfy drive tho!!! just a b :yit smaller than the 6/110

[Lizzie_Zoom]

well if it helps, had a wolesley 6/110 that had a westinghouse gearbox which only needed the clutch to pull away all other changes were just the lever(magic) and it had a built in self lifter for changing the wheels,
also had a starting handle!!!but that 2.6 straight six took some effort to get cranking on the handle!!! maybe that was the car you were thinking of Liz? they were very similar looking to the one you mentioned

Perhaps it was, but I do not remember my father-in-laws version being equiped with an integral jack system. :-/ :-/

[Taxi_Driver]

I use the scissor jack all the time with mine........dont have the room for using a trolley jack....

But what i do use is an axle stand as well......and keep my eye on the angle/tilt of the scissor jack........if i think its starting to lean.....i drop the omega onto the axle stand and reposition the scissor jack....and jack back up  

If im being very cautious (tho not often   ) I jack up using the scissor jack, postion the axle stand, and then drop the scissor jack so the weight is about 50/50 between the two  

An axle stand doesnt take up much space in the boot......

Glad you wernt hurt tho  

[Andy B]

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They later made great 'destruction derby' cars as well!

      Wash your mouth with soapy water!
     

Were't they banned from some tracks? They were just too well built & wouldn't die!  

[Lizzie_Zoom]

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They later made great 'destruction derby' cars as well!

      Wash your mouth with soapy water!
     

Were't they banned from some tracks? They were just too well built & wouldn't die!  

Probably very true as I witnessed at the Wimbledon track one night in about 1973 when a number (with old Humber's, Oxford's, Cambridge's, Cresta's, etc) were still running after taking some incrediable punishment.

Great fun to watch at the time, but now mourne the loss of so many then common cars which are now of 'collector' status!

[Omegatoy]

In my banger days i wrecked soooo many mk2 jags,mk7 jags, mk111 Zodiacs,mk11 zephrs/Zodys, mk1 cortinas/cambridges/p6 rovers/p5 rovers, vaux viscounts and pc crestas, i lost count!!
what wouldnt i give to go back and keep some of them for now!!!! :-?