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[Banjax]

currently looking through the list -if any cop in Perth is on it - I'm complaining to the Chief Superintendent - may pop in and see him if I have the time  

[rickyboy]

Any chance of a copy please?  They've taken it off the blog site.  

[Banjax]

im not posting a link or "pm"ing it - but a simple search in google found it in a few seconds...put it that way

[Banjax]

mention in dispatches to the guy who, underneath his address states he is in the services:intelligence corps - lol not anymore you're not m8 - unless you move quickly of course  

[rickyboy]

im not posting a link or "pm"ing it - but a simple search in google found it in a few seconds...put it that way

It has been removed from blogspot.

[Markie]

Now, call me controversial. And im not going to say i am not a racist ( as it could be argued that anyone on here that has an issue with the Immigration issues we haev is a racist)

But....this is a really disgusting state of affairs and breach of freedom and free speech.

I think more should be made of the DPA breaches and finding WHO let the list out than persecuting those that are on it.

And no i am not on it  

[Banjax]

fk em - its the bnp - an organisation who regularly target email addresses bombarding them with foul-racism and race-hate filth -

payback's a bee-atch aint it?

[Nickbat]

heard on the news today that plod are banned from BNP membership,cant undeerstand why,they may be distasteful etc;but not an illegal party. :-/

I agree. It's the thin end of the wedge. If the BNP is regarded by the media as distasteful, which it may well be though I haven't ever studied their manifesto, then how distasteful is a ban on anyone having a political opinion? The latter is more insidious, IMHO..  

they are more than distateful, they go against any sense of impartiality and fairness that Britain has - of course you shouldn't be allowed to hold extreme views and be a cop - not only does it show a distinct lack of intelligence, it denies the right of EVERY citizen to be accorded fair, even-handed treatment - if you are blatantly prejudiced against large sections of the community then you cannot do your job as a cop.

Sorry, but that's illogical bannjax. Any person can hold extremist views. Preventing them being a member of a political party does not take away their extremist views. What you're saying is that a cop who is a member of the BNP will be prejudiced against large sections of the community, while a cop who isn't a member (but still holds extremist views) won't be.

Indeed, it could be argued that a cop who is known to hold extremist views will be less of a problem than the cop who is secrtly holds such views.

It is the use of laws in these ways that causes problems. A law will not change a person's views...only education and peer-pressure will do that. Laws designed to remove prejudice merely remove the problem from view, they do not destroy it.

[Banjax]

heard on the news today that plod are banned from BNP membership,cant undeerstand why,they may be distasteful etc;but not an illegal party. :-/

I agree. It's the thin end of the wedge. If the BNP is regarded by the media as distasteful, which it may well be though I haven't ever studied their manifesto, then how distasteful is a ban on anyone having a political opinion? The latter is more insidious, IMHO..  

they are more than distateful, they go against any sense of impartiality and fairness that Britain has - of course you shouldn't be allowed to hold extreme views and be a cop - not only does it show a distinct lack of intelligence, it denies the right of EVERY citizen to be accorded fair, even-handed treatment - if you are blatantly prejudiced against large sections of the community then you cannot do your job as a cop.

Sorry, but that's illogical bannjax. Any person can hold extremist views. Preventing them being a member of a political party does not take away their extremist views. What you're saying is that a cop who is a member of the BNP will be prejudiced against large sections of the community, while a cop who isn't a member (but still holds extremist views) won't be.

Indeed, it could be argued that a cop who is known to hold extremist views will be less of a problem than the cop who is secrtly holds such views.

It is the use of laws in these ways that causes problems. A law will not change a person's views...only education and peer-pressure will do that. Laws designed to remove prejudice merely remove the problem from view, they do not destroy it.

good point nickbat - but someone willing to join the BNP and show such ill-judgement doesn't make a good cop imo
racists are easy to spot - they're never the smartest guys in the room - sorry if i sound elitist but in my experience, there are very few, if any, intelligent racists

and on extremist views - listen to the BNP justify their racism - its our right to free speech, its our right to believe what we want

funny how extremists turn all liberal when they're backs are against the wall eh?

hold any view you like - just dont expect society to have the same views, and don't expect to be able to do any job you like

[Martin_1962]

wikileaks appears interesting if up

I have met racists - two of them - together their intelligence equalled that of a fart.

Just sat there moaning that all the immigrants had taken their jobs with quite a few tasteless comments for other races, until they were reminded the reason they were unemployed was because they were completely thick.

Most people with more intelligence than an amoeba realise that you must take every person as an individual.

[JamesV6CDX]

currently looking through the list -if any cop in Perth is on it - I'm complaining to the Chief Superintendent - may pop in and see him if I have the time  

Are you in the job - what do you do?

I remember when I joined up I had to declare on my papersift whether or not I was a member of BNP - the question was asked outright on the application form!

I must be honest, in as much as I don't know enough about the BNP and what it does to make an informed judgement on this thread - but I gather their views are prejudiced against certain sections of the community, so I doubt it would be appropriate for a Police Officer to be a member, given that he or she has sworn to treat everyone with fairness and impartiality  :-?

I personally believe it's right that Police cannot be members of any party with an extreme view against certain people. For exactly the same reason that people cannot (usually) become Police officers if they've had certain past convictions, etc. It's just not appropriate -

It's not discrimination in my opinion - it would be in some occupations, but with the Police I think it's just a case of selecting people who can meet the necessary criteria to do the job and uphold the oath?

As an aside, did you hear about the cop who was hauled in front of Professional Standards recently because he was seen wearing a BNP badge off duty?

[Leomas]

currently looking through the list -if any cop in Perth is on it - I'm complaining to the Chief Superintendent - may pop in and see him if I have the time  

Are you in the job - what do you do?

I remember when I joined up I had to declare on my papersift whether or not I was a member of BNP - the question was asked outright on the application form!

I must be honest, in as much as I don't know enough about the BNP and what it does to make an informed judgement on this thread - but I gather their views are prejudiced against certain sections of the community, so I doubt it would be appropriate for a Police Officer to be a member, given that he or she has sworn to treat everyone with fairness and impartiality  :-?

I personally believe it's right that Police cannot be members of any party with an extreme view against certain people. For exactly the same reason that people cannot (usually) become Police officers if they've had certain past convictions, etc. It's just not appropriate -

It's not discrimination in my opinion - it would be in some occupations, but with the Police I think it's just a case of selecting people who can meet the necessary criteria to do the job and uphold the oath?

As an aside, did you hear about the cop who was hauled in front of Professional Standards recently because he was seen wearing a BNP badge off duty?

Tend to agree here, when I was still playing 'hobby-bobby' it was made VERY clear to us that as in all professions, being in the force in any capacity means the rules were a little more elastic but stretch them too far and the backlash would really really hurt. While there are exceptions everywhere, to be a police officer you should be (and appear to be) impartial which takes a saint to do properly, ask any copper who has to deal with the same group of 'gentlemen' week after week for anti-social behaviour where no matter how often they are arrested they get little more than a slapped wrist and spend less time off the streets that the copper does while he fills out the paperwork.

Bitter? twisted? moi?    oddly enough no

[JamesV6CDX]

My vetting was very, very thorough...

I won't go into details on a public forum for obvious reasons, but prior to my appointment I had to have a meeting with a Superintendent, to discuss a time when I was rather naughty at school.. that's how far back they go!

Apparently cautions/convictions etc that would normally become spent under the Rehab of Offenders Act 74, are never really spent when joining certain positions...

[albitz]

are plod banned from joining "extreme" left wing groups such as the socalists workers party ?

[LaserLance]

Saw a talksport dj got the tintack because his name was on the list