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[mars]

Go for a Henry. Reliable, tough and seem to cope with all jobs. Think Homebase were doing them for about 90 odd quid a couple of weeks ago

[Mr Skrunts]

I have a Dyson (the green one - is that a DC40?), and it's the best vacuum I've ever used.  What I really like about it is that cos it's cyclonic and doesn't use a bag nothing it sucks up comes out again into the atmosphere.  I have a bit of a dust allergy, and a good session with the old Hoover used to get me coughing and wheezing, especially if I'd been having a go at somewhere that didn't get done very often, like under the bed.  With the Dyson I can clean anywhere with never a sniffle.  I've used it after minor brickwork jobs and it seemed to cope okay, though I've never tried after a major demolition job.

I've got a Vax as well, bought off *bay, and that's brilliant for washing the carpets, I'd highly recommend it.

Yes, which is a myth....the cyclone action can not remove small particles adn the cylone setups rely on filters to get anything smaller out....hecne they are no better than a standard bag based hover from that perspective  

I could never understand how Dyson got away with there early T.V advert claim of "no bag so no loss of suction" the bloody things stopped sucking when the filters clogged up!

The latest Dyson ball add makes me laff.  He goes on about the old fashied inline wheels and uses annother brand to explain.  They should make him compare against his own.

[Mr Skrunts]

So, no one rates the Dyson.

Henry seems favourite so far.  Vax is fairing well as a dry hoover allthough I consider then good in the case of excess water but shite as a decent caroet cleaner.


So what do you all recomend as a decent upright cleaner then?  (seeing as we know what you dont like)

[Jimbob]

For 'normal' cleaning been very happy with the dyson.

dc07 animal like yours, about 3-4 years old now started getting a little tempremental though, need to have a play.

Has been the best cleaner we have had.

[Mr Skrunts]

For 'normal' cleaning been very happy with the dyson.

dc07 animal like yours, about 3-4 years old now started getting a little tempremental though, need to have a play.

Has been the best cleaner we have had.

Must admit I like mine, never actually washed the filters but I think they are abbout ready for it.  But I think I put a new set in a couple of years ago so I could alternate them.

[Dusty]

I have a Dyson (the green one - is that a DC40?), and it's the best vacuum I've ever used.  What I really like about it is that cos it's cyclonic and doesn't use a bag nothing it sucks up comes out again into the atmosphere.  I have a bit of a dust allergy, and a good session with the old Hoover used to get me coughing and wheezing, especially if I'd been having a go at somewhere that didn't get done very often, like under the bed.  With the Dyson I can clean anywhere with never a sniffle.  I've used it after minor brickwork jobs and it seemed to cope okay, though I've never tried after a major demolition job.

I've got a Vax as well, bought off *bay, and that's brilliant for washing the carpets, I'd highly recommend it.

Yes, which is a myth....the cyclone action can not remove small particles adn the cylone setups rely on filters to get anything smaller out....hecne they are no better than a standard bag based hover from that perspective  

I could never understand how Dyson got away with there early T.V advert claim of "no bag so no loss of suction" the bloody things stopped sucking when the filters clogged up!

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Very true. I have run my Dyson DC01 for years without any filters.
have had no problems since then,and no damage to the dyson either.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Three key problems with Dysons

1) Appaling build quality, very flimsy
2) Shite motors, these are the hard bits to get right, they often burn out and Dyson were so tight in the design they didn't even fit a thermal trip!
3) VERY over priced

Everybody makes the judgement that they work well based on observation of the one clever thing on them and that is the clear tank that catches the shite. People see the amount sucked up and go 'ooohhh that must be good'!

In addition, they have rather big motors (the rest do to now) and they were one of the first to have 2+hp motors (many were clsoer to 1hp) and this was the key reason they had more suction, not the cyclone! Makes them bloody heavy though!

So Dyson, great marketing, shite product and there are always those out there daft enough to buy such things (although thier sales have dropped massively since the competition adopted large motors and cyclone filtering).

[Entwood]

We've had a "Kirby" for 20 years now, extremely reliable, and works very, very well.

I know the initial outlay is expensive, but they last forever. Just had a major service done on it (I do 90% myself as it's not rocket science, but it gets a "treat" every 5 years .. or when some extra parts are needed .. )

New cable, new backplate (I damaged these when I dropped it down the stairs!), new motor brushes, and a new internal hose that was split.... total cost   £68 ... and other than the odd belt & bag thats it for the last 5 years, for an excellent vacuum cleaner that also doubles as a carpet shampooer and an orbital sander... !!

Not everyones choice .....  

[TheBoy]

I have a Dyson (the green one - is that a DC40?), and it's the best vacuum I've ever used.  What I really like about it is that cos it's cyclonic and doesn't use a bag nothing it sucks up comes out again into the atmosphere.  I have a bit of a dust allergy, and a good session with the old Hoover used to get me coughing and wheezing, especially if I'd been having a go at somewhere that didn't get done very often, like under the bed.  With the Dyson I can clean anywhere with never a sniffle.  I've used it after minor brickwork jobs and it seemed to cope okay, though I've never tried after a major demolition job.

I've got a Vax as well, bought off *bay, and that's brilliant for washing the carpets, I'd highly recommend it.

Yes, which is a myth....the cyclone action can not remove small particles adn the cylone setups rely on filters to get anything smaller out....hecne they are no better than a standard bag based hover from that perspective  

I could never understand how Dyson got away with there early T.V advert claim of "no bag so no loss of suction" the bloody things stopped sucking when the filters clogged up!

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Very true. I have run my Dyson DC01 for years without any filters.
have had no problems since then,and no damage to the dyson either.

There should be a filter above the cyclone to catch the fine particles that don't drop out in the cyclone?

[TheBoy]

Three key problems with Dysons

1) Appaling build quality, very flimsy
2) Shite motors, these are the hard bits to get right, they often burn out and Dyson were so tight in the design they didn't even fit a thermal trip!
3) VERY over priced

Everybody makes the judgement that they work well based on observation of the one clever thing on them and that is the clear tank that catches the shite. People see the amount sucked up and go 'ooohhh that must be good'!

In addition, they have rather big motors (the rest do to now) and they were one of the first to have 2+hp motors (many were clsoer to 1hp) and this was the key reason they had more suction, not the cyclone! Makes them bloody heavy though!

So Dyson, great marketing, shite product and there are always those out there daft enough to buy such things (although thier sales have dropped massively since the competition adopted large motors and cyclone filtering).

But being cyclone based, it needs a more powerful motor doesn't it?

[TheBoy]

1) Appaling build quality, very flimsy

Not sure technically a build issue, more a design issue to use flimsey plastic.....

[Marks DTM Calib]

Build quality is 90% attributable to design.....poor design equals poor build quality