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Re: One for the aero anoraks amongst you....
« Reply #15 on: 06 May 2009, 19:13:38 »

Vulcan 607, a damn good read. Might have another go.
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Re: One for the aero anoraks amongst you....
« Reply #16 on: 06 May 2009, 19:15:23 »

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Are the photo angles misleading or was it close to going seriously brown on the landing?
One wing looks to be dropping after rotate...

And..any video?

Not found a video yet but yes, its a bit close.

Although teh runway drops away over the crest.

Yup, adrenaline IS brown and does flow down trouser legs...   ;D

I was thinking more the angle of view along the fuselage, taking account of the photographers position.  In the last view, the aircraft is distinctly pointing off centre on the runway.  Bet the driver really had to slew it round some before getting to ground again!   :D
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Re: One for the aero anoraks amongst you....
« Reply #17 on: 06 May 2009, 19:20:17 »

It looks as if it is pointing way stbd of the centre line, normal procedure would be to shovel on more coal and go around for another go BUT if he wasnt supposed to leave the ground in the first place then he had to make the best of it.
Does this sort of thing threaten fast taxis on cold war jets days or is it seen as purely accidental?
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Re: One for the aero anoraks amongst you....
« Reply #18 on: 06 May 2009, 19:23:27 »

I suspect its seen as pure accidental.

I wonder if he hit a bit of a head wind as he approached the brow of the runway (probably coming slightly from the left).

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Re: One for the aero anoraks amongst you....
« Reply #19 on: 06 May 2009, 19:43:21 »

Looks like he hit a bit of headwind which knocked his right arm forward onto the throttles.......

Brilliant pics but if he dont get a bollocking for that.........!!!?!?!?

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Re: One for the aero anoraks amongst you....
« Reply #20 on: 06 May 2009, 19:45:29 »

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Vulcan 607, a damn good read. Might have another go.

One of my all time best reads, i think Richard Bransons Autobiography just pips it.
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Re: One for the aero anoraks amongst you....
« Reply #22 on: 06 May 2009, 20:11:11 »

Talking of planes, when was the last time the RAF actually shot down another plane in a combat situation ?

I was surprised.

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« Reply #23 on: 06 May 2009, 20:51:40 »

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Talking of planes, when was the last time the RAF actually shot down another plane in a combat situation ?

I was surprised.

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A long time ago, possibly Korea.

The FAA of course know and remind them as often as possible. The last time a British pilot shot down another aircraft was during the Falklands
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Re: One for the aero anoraks amongst you....
« Reply #24 on: 06 May 2009, 20:51:59 »

Was it refueling XH558?
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Re: One for the aero anoraks amongst you....
« Reply #25 on: 06 May 2009, 20:55:16 »

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He managed to get it back down again



Good job Bruntingthorpe has a 2 mile long runway!
Even you might just beat me on that one ;D ;D ;D
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Re: One for the aero anoraks amongst you....
« Reply #26 on: 06 May 2009, 21:01:07 »

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Talking of planes, when was the last time the RAF actually shot down another plane in a combat situation ?

I was surprised.

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A long time ago, possibly Korea.

The FAA of course know and remind them as often as possible. The last time a British pilot shot down another aircraft was during the Falklands


All the way back to 22nd May 1947: two Egyptian Spitfires attacking Ramat David airfield in Palestine were shot down by an RAF Spitfire.

Falklands was of course Royal Navy  :y Although some claim there where RAF pilots in the Falklands and are claiming kills. But somehow I doubt it.
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Re: One for the aero anoraks amongst you....
« Reply #27 on: 06 May 2009, 21:08:57 »

I thought the last time the RAF shot down an enemy plain was in the First Gulf war 1991 or am I wrong there?,  :-/  I remember as a kid watching the Vulcan land at the old sunderland airport ( the nissan plant now ) it took 3 tryes and still ended up in the farmers field, Bloody good flying from the pilot mind :y :y
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Re: One for the aero anoraks amongst you....
« Reply #28 on: 06 May 2009, 21:58:21 »

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Talking of planes, when was the last time the RAF actually shot down another plane in a combat situation ?

I was surprised.

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A long time ago, possibly Korea.

The FAA of course know and remind them as often as possible. The last time a British pilot shot down another aircraft was during the Falklands


All the way back to 22nd May 1947: two Egyptian Spitfires attacking Ramat David airfield in Palestine were shot down by an RAF Spitfire.

Falklands was of course Royal Navy  :y Although some claim there where RAF pilots in the Falklands and are claiming kills. But somehow I doubt it.


A Spitfire - longer ago than I thought.

All since have been FAA with Sea Furys and Sea Harriers, two of my favourite aeroplanes
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Re: One for the aero anoraks amongst you....
« Reply #29 on: 07 May 2009, 00:06:05 »

Hmm. Interesting incident. He had quite a bit of flap on for someone who never intended to leave the ground, although there might well be a good reason for that. As said, a gust or emerging from a sheltered area obviously gave him flying speed. His fast taxi was too fast for the conditions.

He had rotated to quite a nose-high attitude in the second frame though! I wonder what margin he had over stall speed? If that wasn't deliberate he was seriously caught napping. ;D

I suspect there was probably a crosswind which accounted for the fact that he was crabbing down the runway once airborne and with no room to correct it he probably touched down with quite a bit of yaw, causing the aircraft to roll over to the left as the landing gear contacted the ground.

By far the safest thing to do would probably have been to open the taps and do a circuit, airworthy or not, rather then risk running out of runway before getting rid of the energy. Would have made the ensuing paperwork a bit awkward though!

It would be very interesting to see a video.

Kevin
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