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« Reply #15 on: 06 May 2009, 22:57:03 »

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I wouldn't get too anti-plod on this one. Sandfields, Port Talbot is about 20 mins drive from me and although I've not been there for a couple of years, the last time I was passing through it wasn't exactly a "Des Res" area. The kids would steal hubcaps of moving cars.
On olden day maps it would have been marked "Here be Drive-by's"  ;D

I'm not "anti-plod" at all. Remember, any "police state" (whether or not we are headed that way) is not instigated by the police service. They are purely doing their job. In this case, an Act of Parliament was passed, by which they (the police) are expected to seize the assets of anyone who cannot account for the legality of that ownership. Just because an Act is passed by Parliament does not mean that it is good...or just.

I generally support the police service. Should we enter a "police state", it will be through the actions of the government of the time, not the serving officers. Indeed, the term "police state" is often sadly misconstrued as the police running the country. It is not so. I am sure that many officers are vehemently opposed to some of the laws that they are expected to enforce. But enforce them, they must.
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« Reply #16 on: 06 May 2009, 23:04:06 »

Police is formed of people a lot are good some are bad.

However I do think a few Gene Hunts out there would help ;D
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Re: Don't keep too much cash at home...
« Reply #17 on: 06 May 2009, 23:06:03 »

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Police is formed of people a lot are good some are bad.

However I do think a few Gene Hunts out there would help ;D

The good old days.......... ::) ::) ::) ::) In his day people wanted to bring back Dixon of Dock Green.... :D
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« Reply #18 on: 06 May 2009, 23:08:52 »

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Police is formed of people a lot are good some are bad.

However I do think a few Gene Hunts out there would help ;D

The good old days.......... ::) ::) ::) ::) In his day people wanted to bring back Dixon of Dock Green.... :D


"Evenin' all!"  ;)

..and to think I'm only 22 years old..... :D
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Re: Don't keep too much cash at home...
« Reply #19 on: 06 May 2009, 23:40:58 »

A man?

What age?  17 or 97

Did he work?

Was he a self employed craftsman.  Doing weekend jobs for cash.

Did he trust banks, a lot of the older generation did'nt.

Was he a good saver, My Mother started saving 50p pieces when my Nephew was born, I wont tell of the ammount she saved in 12 years, but had it have been a guy who just saved his daily fag money after packing in it would have been a far greater ammount than the 67K mentioned. and of course that could be quite a variation depending on how many he gave up smoking.

I used to have a chippy and there was one old lady that bought a bag of chips 3 days a week that kept her life saving in her stocking tops.

I know of people who collected kruggerands and kept them under the floor boards. and still do.  Does he have to keep them any where else.

but just because a guy cant explain how he got it, does that mean it he came about it by ill gotten methods.
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Re: Don't keep too much cash at home...
« Reply #20 on: 06 May 2009, 23:45:09 »

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A man?

What age?  17 or 97

Did he work?

Was he a self employed craftsman.  Doing weekend jobs for cash.

Did he trust banks, a lot of the older generation did'nt.

Was he a good saver, My Mother started saving 50p pieces when my Nephew was born, I wont tell of the ammount she saved in 12 years, but had it have been a guy who just saved his daily fag money after packing in it would have been a far greater ammount than the 67K mentioned. and of course that could be quite a variation depending on how many he gave up smoking.

I used to have a chippy and there was one old lady that bought a bag of chips 3 days a week that kept her life saving in her stocking tops.

I know of people who collected kruggerands and kept them under the floor boards. and still do.  Does he have to keep them any where else.

but just because a guy cant explain how he got it, does that mean it he came about it by ill gotten methods.
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« Reply #21 on: 06 May 2009, 23:51:43 »

I would bet a pound cash to a pound of pig shit that the 'owner' of the  cash seized is a previous customer of the Officers (Force) who seized the cash, hence the 'suspicion' under the proceeds of Crime etc Act.

Martin - you really need to get out more.  There really really are bad people out there who dont always declare their 'earnings' to the taxman, be they drug profits, the fortnightly giro's or cash they accumulate from fixing remore alarm keyfobs off E-bay or elsewhere!   ;D
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Re: Don't keep too much cash at home...
« Reply #22 on: 06 May 2009, 23:55:53 »

Trust me folks, Sandfields is not the sort of area where law abiding citizens would live if they had the money to get out.  
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« Reply #23 on: 06 May 2009, 23:57:27 »

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I would bet a pound cash to a pound of pig shit that the 'owner' of the  cash seized is a previous customer of the Officers (Force) who seized the cash, hence the 'suspicion' under the proceeds of Crime etc Act.

Martin - you really need to get out more.  There really really are bad people out there who dont always declare their 'earnings' to the taxman, be they drug profits, the fortnightly giro's or cash they accumulate from fixing remore alarm keyfobs off E-bay or elsewhere!   ;D

That's quite a reasonable assertion there 21 :y :y
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« Reply #24 on: 06 May 2009, 23:58:36 »

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I expect it is now in those Policemans pockets. I cannot see how they can take it wothout proof of crime
A bit of a quantum leap, methinks?  If, perchance, the cash DID getbinto their pockets, even for a split second, you think its there now?

Perhaps, heavens forbid, the cops who seized the cash are actually HONEST and did the deed as per guidelines?  Still newsworthy or worth maligning all otherwise honest Police Officers?  I think you viewpoint is fatally flawed, Mr Imber, and is coating far too many honest Officers with a tarry brush........  
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« Reply #25 on: 07 May 2009, 00:05:48 »

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Police is formed of people a lot are good some are bad.

However I do think a few Gene Hunts out there would help ;D

Do you honestly understand the persona that the 'gene hunt' character displays?  having served through this era in real time, not a script writers imagination, do you really think that the gene genie was wholly honest?  I'd bet that his character type kept the cash.....   ;)
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« Reply #26 on: 07 May 2009, 00:06:23 »

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Perhaps, heavens forbid, the cops who seized the cash are actually HONEST and did the deed as per guidelines?  Still newsworthy or worth maligning all otherwise honest Police Officers?  I think you viewpoint is fatally flawed, Mr Imber, and is coating far too many honest Officers with a tarry brush........  

And ultimately leads to the breakdown of the essential trust in, and respect for, the police.
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« Reply #27 on: 07 May 2009, 00:16:32 »

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I would bet a pound cash to a pound of pig shit that the 'owner' of the  cash seized is a previous customer of the Officers (Force) who seized the cash, hence the 'suspicion' under the proceeds of Crime etc Act.

Martin - you really need to get out more.  There really really are bad people out there who dont always declare their 'earnings' to the taxman, be they drug profits, the fortnightly giro's or cash they accumulate from fixing remore alarm keyfobs off E-bay or elsewhere!   ;D


Hmmm. As I read it, the police responded to a reported burglary at the address. I know of a few ne'er do wells that would never call plod even if they were relieved of all their worldly goods. Would he (presumably) have called the police if he had major crimes to hide? I think not.

Not sure that your comment about keyfobs is appropriate.  :(
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« Reply #28 on: 07 May 2009, 00:18:17 »

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Police is formed of people a lot are good some are bad.

However I do think a few Gene Hunts out there would help ;D

Do you honestly understand the persona that the 'gene hunt' character displays?  having served through this era in real time, not a script writers imagination, do you really think that the gene genie was wholly honest?  I'd bet that his character type kept the cash.....   ;)

However attractive people think that type of policing to be, it made a right mess of the service at the time.  I knew too many such types, more interested in short-cutting the system than in doing the job in a way that was acceptable and professional.  That attitude didn't work then and it certainly can't work now
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Re: Don't keep too much cash at home...
« Reply #29 on: 07 May 2009, 00:26:10 »

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Don't do banks to be honest mrs does but thats her choice. Most of my money is all here in a large safe. It's all been hard earnt so no-one else is having it  ;D


    :o That's a bit of a admission to make!!!

        Is this her day or night job :D ;D ;D.
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