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[KillerWatt]

Plasmas tend to start show degradation after 2yrs, and pretty 'dangle berries'ed after 4.

I sincerely hope Plasma's are 'dangle berries'ed after 4 years then, because our's came with a 5 year warranty as standard (our's being a direct replacement and upgrade from an LCD that failed 3 times in 7 months).

Sadly, you'll find your warranty will not cover fair wear and tear

If the image quality is "'dangle berries'ed" after 4 years, that is known as "not fit for purpose" and english law covers that subject fairly well

[TheBoy]

Plasmas tend to start show degradation after 2yrs, and pretty 'dangle berries'ed after 4.

I sincerely hope Plasma's are 'dangle berries'ed after 4 years then, because our's came with a 5 year warranty as standard (our's being a direct replacement and upgrade from an LCD that failed 3 times in 7 months).

Sadly, you'll find your warranty will not cover fair wear and tear

If the image quality is "'dangle berries'ed" after 4 years, that is known as "not fit for purpose" and english law covers that subject fairly well

Normal wear and tear is not covered by SoG act,  obviously...

[KillerWatt]

Plasmas tend to start show degradation after 2yrs, and pretty 'dangle berries'ed after 4.

I sincerely hope Plasma's are 'dangle berries'ed after 4 years then, because our's came with a 5 year warranty as standard (our's being a direct replacement and upgrade from an LCD that failed 3 times in 7 months).

Sadly, you'll find your warranty will not cover fair wear and tear

If the image quality is "'dangle berries'ed" after 4 years, that is known as "not fit for purpose" and english law covers that subject fairly well

Normal wear and tear is not covered by SoG act,  obviously...

Perhaps you had better define your interpretation of "'dangle berries'ed" then.

My idea of "'dangle berries'ed" is no longer usable as far as any reasonable person is concerned, and most reasonable people would expect a television to last 5 years minimum.

[TheBoy]

Plasmas tend to start show degradation after 2yrs, and pretty 'dangle berries'ed after 4.

I sincerely hope Plasma's are 'dangle berries'ed after 4 years then, because our's came with a 5 year warranty as standard (our's being a direct replacement and upgrade from an LCD that failed 3 times in 7 months).

Sadly, you'll find your warranty will not cover fair wear and tear

If the image quality is "'dangle berries'ed" after 4 years, that is known as "not fit for purpose" and english law covers that subject fairly well

Normal wear and tear is not covered by SoG act,  obviously...

Perhaps you had better define your interpretation of "'dangle berries'ed" then.

My idea of "'dangle berries'ed" is no longer usable as far as any reasonable person is concerned, and most reasonable people would expect a television to last 5 years minimum.

Most TVs should last 5yrs, but thats not the same as it being anywhere near the same quality as when it was new. Being trained and qualified in TV repair, I can tell you that a CRT, for example, is right at the end of its useful life at 5yrs old - the phosphur is tired, and the vacuum was started to deminish.  Plasma suffers similar problems (actually more so due to the extra complexity), if you can get the drivers to last that long.

The degradation in any crt tube, or plasma panel, is not covered by any warranty - its classed as fair wear and tear.

[Martin_1962]

Tunnie - your front room TV is?

MDTM - yours is?

See a pattern

Front room - Samsung
Back room - Sony
Bedroom - Samsung
Kitchen - Samsung

I thought you had a 40" SOny?

[semisheen]

Sorry

The phosper doesent get tired hence CRT’s can be re gunned
A CRTwill go low on emmisions but this is caused by sooting around the guns in the neck other faults are heater cathode grid cathode shorts causing the display to go all green / red / blue  other faults include shadowmask / degaussing & purity ….but the wors task of all was convergence East West probs …….goodbye CRT
Hello CRT

[semisheen]

oops that should read
"goodbye CRT hello LCD"

[KillerWatt]

Being trained and qualified in TV repair, I can tell you that a CRT, for example, is right at the end of its useful life at 5yrs old

LOL....5 years was the life expectancy when I did the 224 almost 26 years ago...we've moved on a bit since then.

Plasma suffers similar problems (actually more so due to the extra complexity), if you can get the drivers to last that long.

The degradation in any crt tube, or plasma panel, is not covered by any warranty - its classed as fair wear and tear.

I've seen plasma's that are 6 years old alongside brand new sets (displaying the same test image), and while the colours in the 6 year old set aren't quite as sharp as the brand spanker, they certainly aren't "'dangle berries'ed" IMO.

[TheBoy]

Being trained and qualified in TV repair, I can tell you that a CRT, for example, is right at the end of its useful life at 5yrs old

LOL....5 years was the life expectancy when I did the 224 almost 26 years ago...we've moved on a bit since then.

Yes, mostly in the wrong direction

Plasma suffers similar problems (actually more so due to the extra complexity), if you can get the drivers to last that long.

The degradation in any crt tube, or plasma panel, is not covered by any warranty - its classed as fair wear and tear.

I've seen plasma's that are 6 years old alongside brand new sets (displaying the same test image), and while the colours in the 6 year old set aren't quite as sharp as the brand spanker, they certainly aren't "'dangle berries'ed" IMO.

I've seen old G11 look good after a few years.  Bloody thing only ever used for an hour or 2 a week though .  That aside, I've also seen a trinitron screen last way beyond what it should, so you do get oddites that are unusual.


I really do hope your plasma lasts as long as you hope.  But back to the matter in hand, LCD is superior in virtually all aspects, for home use there is no reason to ever pick plasma now.



And thats my last comment on this thread

[semisheen]

I just hope we answerd Mike D's question thats what fourums are all about  

[Bent valve]

I'm with KillerWatt on this one, large scale LCD is crap compared to plasma.  my 4 year old LG is still rather brilliant compared to some recent LCDs.
 And as an added bonus it keeps the room warm as well

[tunnie]

I'm with KillerWatt on this one, large scale LCD is crap compared to plasma.  my 4 year old LG is still rather brilliant compared to some recent LCDs.
 And as an added bonus it keeps the room warm as well

LCD Wins hands down these days, Plasma is too unreliable

[KillerWatt]

I've seen old G11 look good after a few years.

Not without resoldering the frame timebase IC on a regular basis you didn't

That aside, I've also seen a trinitron screen last way beyond what it should,

Trinitron tubes were way ahead of their time in the grand scheme of things.

I really do hope your plasma lasts as long as you hope.

I'm a bit of a gadget freak, so I have a tendancy to sell on long before the so called life expectancy comes about.

But back to the matter in hand, LCD is superior in virtually all aspects, for home use there is no reason to ever pick plasma now.

I can only speak from first hand experience.
We had the LCD, and all we got from that (aside from numerous breakdowns) was artifacts (pixelation) on dark scenes, shadowing between scenes, no such thing as true black (caused by backlight) and noticable (to me anyway) lag in fast moving imagery.
We now have the Plasma, and don't see any of the above.

Both sets are LG, and both got the best write ups for their class (so it's not like I originally bought $hit and then improved).

As I said elsewhere, what looks (or sounds) good to one won't necessarily look (or sound) good to another.....horses for courses.

[Martin_1962]

I've also seen a trinitron screen last way beyond what it should, so you do get oddites that are unusual.

I have seen Trinitrons last for years too and I have seen one fail - my old 25" at 11 years

[Martin_1962]

I'm with KillerWatt on this one, large scale LCD is crap compared to plasma.  my 4 year old LG is still rather brilliant compared to some recent LCDs.
 And as an added bonus it keeps the room warm as well

I'd pit mine against any similar sized Plasma, but then the model range did win a lot of awards