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[Jimbob]

So IF i swap to O2, they reckon 3meg!

£12 + $9

If only you could really try before you buy  :-?

Just remember, their calculation of what you will get is just a guess (although the guess is invariably right).
I was told I would only get 14Mbit. I pull 17.5Mbit when it's dry and 16.2Mbit when it's raining......I'll go outside and attack the BT box on my wall with some mastic if the speed drops any more when it's wet  

Luxury!

at the moment, I know I can run at full speed, up or down 24 hours a day


speed may only be 1 meg down, 256k up, but it works flawlessly.

Once I make this decision, I know I cannot go back to where I am, so it HAS to be a better service, couldnt tolerate any less (but would have too  )

Sync speeds mean nowt, its the real world that counts and you can;t find out till its too late  

[TheBoy]

There £22 package looks promising

It will be £17 if you happen to be an o2 customer

still need extra news service, But ill have a read up on em  

I've been with them since last June. Never had a loss of service, although they did have a DNS issue that lasted for a week (that can happen to anybody, and there was nothing to stop you using your own DNS as a temporary fix).
 
Bandwidth wise, I'm a serial downloader easily hitting 80 - 100GB per day and they haven't complained once.
Hardware wise, the supplied router (Thomson) isn't quite my cup of tea....but it will be good enough for the "home" user.

I got in before the price hike, so I'm paying £15 for the Pro package.
All in all, can't fault it.

No, it can't and won't happen to most reasonable ISPs, as it is the easiest problem in the world for them to fix  

Until you know what the problem was, and how it came about....how can you say it WON'T happen to most reasonable ISP's?

Whatever the problem, it is easy to fix.  Most ISPs have sufficient DNS capacity to cope with single server outage.  Even if you lost all your DNS servers, how long does it take you to get them back?

[TheBoy]

So IF i swap to O2, they reckon 3meg!

£12 + $9

If only you could really try before you buy  :-?

Just remember, their calculation of what you will get is just a guess (although the guess is invariably right).
I was told I would only get 14Mbit. I pull 17.5Mbit when it's dry and 16.2Mbit when it's raining......I'll go outside and attack the BT box on my wall with some mastic if the speed drops any more when it's wet  

The sync change will be due to a renegotiate, which will cause a line drop  

[TheBoy]

So IF i swap to O2, they reckon 3meg!

£12 + $9

If only you could really try before you buy  :-?

Just remember, their calculation of what you will get is just a guess (although the guess is invariably right).
I was told I would only get 14Mbit. I pull 17.5Mbit when it's dry and 16.2Mbit when it's raining......I'll go outside and attack the BT box on my wall with some mastic if the speed drops any more when it's wet  

Luxury!

at the moment, I know I can run at full speed, up or down 24 hours a day


speed may only be 1 meg down, 256k up, but it works flawlessly.

Once I make this decision, I know I cannot go back to where I am, so it HAS to be a better service, couldnt tolerate any less (but would have too  )

Sync speeds mean nowt, its the real world that counts and you can;t find out till its too late  

Be's network is reasonable in most places, but problematic in others, so ideally find someone off the same exchange who runs o2/be.  Thats still not a guarantee, as if its a larger exchange, they may have multiple pipes...

[Jimbob]

So IF i swap to O2, they reckon 3meg!

£12 + $9

If only you could really try before you buy  :-?

Just remember, their calculation of what you will get is just a guess (although the guess is invariably right).
I was told I would only get 14Mbit. I pull 17.5Mbit when it's dry and 16.2Mbit when it's raining......I'll go outside and attack the BT box on my wall with some mastic if the speed drops any more when it's wet  

Luxury!

at the moment, I know I can run at full speed, up or down 24 hours a day


speed may only be 1 meg down, 256k up, but it works flawlessly.

Once I make this decision, I know I cannot go back to where I am, so it HAS to be a better service, couldnt tolerate any less (but would have too  )

Sync speeds mean nowt, its the real world that counts and you can;t find out till its too late  

Be's network is reasonable in most places, but problematic in others, so ideally find someone off the same exchange who runs o2/be.  Thats still not a guarantee, as if its a larger exchange, they may have multiple pipes...

noone I know unfortunately, everyone is on the big names

[KillerWatt]

Even if you lost all your DNS servers, how long does it take you to get them back?

You seem to think you know everything about everything already, so quite frankly I'm amazed you haven't told me.

The sync change will be due to a renegotiate, which will cause a line drop  

It doesn't drop the line when a speed change occurs.

[Jimbob]

other way of looking at it....

currently paying £30

to get what I want its £40 with Zen, or £20 with O2 (or whatever elsewhere, but the best LLU option on the exchange prob makes sense I reckon)


So...Is the £40 option twice as good as the £20 option....

[TheBoy]

other way of looking at it....

currently paying £30

to get what I want its £40 with Zen, or £20 with O2 (or whatever elsewhere, but the best LLU option on the exchange prob makes sense I reckon)


So...Is the £40 option twice as good as the £20 option....

Unlikely, but only you can answer that with your priorities...

[KillerWatt]

I can only speak from personal experience JB, and I have had no reason to fault them.

[TheBoy]

Even if you lost all your DNS servers, how long does it take you to get them back?

You seem to think you know everything about everything already, so quite frankly I'm amazed you haven't told me.

The sync change will be due to a renegotiate, which will cause a line drop  

It doesn't drop the line when a speed change occurs.

a) I assumed you'd know

b) Its ADSL2 isn't it?  :-?

[Jimbob]

You can Have it Good, Fast & Cheap.....Any 2

 

[TheBoy]

You can Have it Good, Fast & Cheap.....Any 2

 

But we want all 3, and more

[TheBoy]

You can Have it Good, Fast & Cheap.....Any 2

 

Actually, thats one YOU can't have  

[Jimbob]

I can only speak from personal experience JB, and I have had no reason to fault them.

Granted, but we have VERY different lines.  If I was close to the exchange, the promises of good speeds would be reason to take the risk.

Where I am, I know I get a good service, and just unsure if it will be matched.


I may jump, find I have 3 times the speed, and decent upload, and wonder what all the fuss was about.


If I do, and dont, I will regret the move for a long time.

Its not all about price, but value does come into it.  and £40 a month is getting to be too much.

[Jimbob]

You can Have it Good, Fast & Cheap.....Any 2

 

Actually, thats one YOU can't have  

ok, ok...

You can have it Good, fast as possible, and cheap.....any 2!