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[STMO999]

Just heard on the telly that it is unlikely that GM will offload opel now it has the funds to hold on to it. I think I'm glad.....better the devil you know.

[Jimbob]

sounds positive 

[albitz]

Dont care tbh,the U.S. and european arms of GM havent made a good car for a very long time imo.

[STMO999]

Dont care tbh,the U.S. and european arms of GM havent made a good car for a very long time imo.

I think the astra is a great car. It does everything it's supposed to, is well built, cheap to run and looks good. They were so heavily discounted at the point of sale that you could pick one up for the price of a punto.

My meriva has been faultless as well.

Horses for couses.

[Del Boy]

Dont care tbh,the U.S. and european arms of GM havent made a good car for a very long time imo.

I think the astra is a great car. It does everything it's supposed to, is well built, cheap to run and looks good. They were so heavily discounted at the point of sale that you could pick one up for the price of a punto.

My meriva has been faultless as well.

Horses for couses.

Agreed on the Astra 

[albitz]

Dont care tbh,the U.S. and european arms of GM havent made a good car for a very long time imo.

I think the astra is a great car. It does everything it's supposed to, is well built, cheap to run and looks good. They were so heavily discounted at the point of sale that you could pick one up for the price of a punto.

My meriva has been faultless as well.

Horses for couses.

got a few spare "R,s" here if you want to borrow one Steve.
My point is that they make competent dull cars like everyone else,no character,nothing exciting or outstanding about them.nothing to rival the big luxury makers for half the price.

[STMO999]

Dont care tbh,the U.S. and european arms of GM havent made a good car for a very long time imo.

I think the astra is a great car. It does everything it's supposed to, is well built, cheap to run and looks good. They were so heavily discounted at the point of sale that you could pick one up for the price of a punto.

My meriva has been faultless as well.

Horses for couses.

got a few spare "R,s" here if you want to borrow one Steve.
My point is that they make competent dull cars like everyone else,no character,nothing exciting or outstanding about them.nothing to rival the big luxury makers for half the price.

Stick R's up yer R's mate.

[TheBoy]

Astra-H is a pet hate of mine, interiors seem to fall apart quickly .  I guess thats what happens when you get a bit too keen on the penny pinching.

Build quality aside, its a reasonable car, and I've done a 300m fast stint driving one (when the MV6 got left in Dijon).  Bit of interior trim fell off when I hit that bloomin great crow at 160kph though...

[albitz]

Dont care tbh,the U.S. and european arms of GM havent made a good car for a very long time imo.

I think the astra is a great car. It does everything it's supposed to, is well built, cheap to run and looks good. They were so heavily discounted at the point of sale that you could pick one up for the price of a punto.

My meriva has been faultless as well.

Horses for couses.

got a few spare "R,s" here if you want to borrow one Steve.
My point is that they make competent dull cars like everyone else,no character,nothing exciting or outstanding about them.nothing to rival the big luxury makers for half the price.

Stick R's up yer R's mate.

If I were buying a smallish characterless hatchback typecar,I would buy Japanese for the reliability.

[STMO999]

Astra-H is a pet hate of mine, interiors seem to fall apart quickly .  I guess thats what happens when you get a bit too keen on the penny pinching.

Build quality aside, its a reasonable car, and I've done a 300m fast stint driving one (when the MV6 got left in Dijon).  Bit of interior trim fell off when I hit that bloomin great crow at 160kph though...

Guess you must be an awkward bastard unlucky. I've had nothing but good reports.

[STMO999]

Dont care tbh,the U.S. and european arms of GM havent made a good car for a very long time imo.

I think the astra is a great car. It does everything it's supposed to, is well built, cheap to run and looks good. They were so heavily discounted at the point of sale that you could pick one up for the price of a punto.

My meriva has been faultless as well.

Horses for couses.

got a few spare "R,s" here if you want to borrow one Steve.
My point is that they make competent dull cars like everyone else,no character,nothing exciting or outstanding about them.nothing to rival the big luxury makers for half the price.

Stick R's up yer R's mate.

If I were buying a smallish characterless hatchback typecar,I would buy Japanese for the reliability.

And what would you do with the hundreds of pounds you spend in repairs each year?

[TheBoy]

Astra-H is a pet hate of mine, interiors seem to fall apart quickly .  I guess thats what happens when you get a bit too keen on the penny pinching.

Build quality aside, its a reasonable car, and I've done a 300m fast stint driving one (when the MV6 got left in Dijon).  Bit of interior trim fell off when I hit that bloomin great crow at 160kph though...

Guess you must be an awkward bastard unlucky. I've had nothing but good reports.

My little bro has one, similar problems.  Also, we use them as company cars (and everyone wants cruise ), so get to see a fair few of them...

[STMO999]

Astra-H is a pet hate of mine, interiors seem to fall apart quickly .  I guess thats what happens when you get a bit too keen on the penny pinching.

Build quality aside, its a reasonable car, and I've done a 300m fast stint driving one (when the MV6 got left in Dijon).  Bit of interior trim fell off when I hit that bloomin great crow at 160kph though...

Guess you must be an awkward bastard unlucky. I've had nothing but good reports.

My little bro has one, similar problems.  Also, we use them as company cars (and everyone wants cruise ), so get to see a fair few of them...

Maybe they cant take that much punishment, but as a family car they are adequate.

I dont think wifey punishes the engine too much either, maybe

[Dishevelled Den]

Dont care tbh,the U.S. and european arms of GM havent made a good car for a very long time imo.

I think the astra is a great car. It does everything it's supposed to, is well built, cheap to run and looks good. They were so heavily discounted at the point of sale that you could pick one up for the price of a punto.

My meriva has been faultless as well.

Horses for couses.

got a few spare "R,s" here if you want to borrow one Steve.
My point is that they make competent dull cars like everyone else,no character,nothing exciting or outstanding about them.nothing to rival the big luxury makers for half the price.

Stick R's up yer R's mate.

  brilliant


( no offence Albs)

[cem_devecioglu]

me thinks opel much better in hands of another..

[no offense for anyone]

they are selling too many chevys and other gm brands here.. and all is complete crap.. that I wont give any penny..