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[Jim Bob2]

Everybody thinks they have a giant killer until a nissan skyline appears. My freind has a 1998 R34 GTT 4 door saloon (not coupe) completely bog standard, mint condition. Looks like any other Nissan really but has stunning handling and performance, all for £4000. Theres nothing out there to touch a well driven one.
My beloved Omega could soon be ex-beloved if her-in-doors loosens the purse strings.

[Danny]

I cant challenge much in my 2.0 16v but i'm still waiting for my bro to get the same day off as me so I can race down the east lancs against his lexus hopefully without police presence, easier said than done!

[Martin_1962]

The office manager has bought an early Skyline. I have said if he ever goes to a run what you bring - I'll race him.

His is 2.0 turbo auto.

[Jim Bob2]

The 2.0 turbo autos are nothing to write home about. Your omega would probably keep up with it, if you spanked it to within an inch of its life.
 Its the 2.5 turbos that shift.

[Martin_1962]

The 2.0 turbo autos are nothing to write home about. Your omega would probably keep up with it, if you spanked it to within an inch of its life.
 Its the 2.5 turbos that shift.

Nothing new there, until the Y32SE transplant I have planned for 30 months time.

Mine is as quick as a 3.0 auto up to 60

[bogit]

on my bike my favourite trick is on a nice long straight road , pull up along side folks on the race rep painted 600/750's sat bolt upright with the missus on the back when there at full throttle leaning over there tank and sit there for a few miles then drop a few gears and leave them as a ever decreasing dot in my mirrors


im starting to feel old now but years ago my second car ever was a b reg 1.3l mk1 astra. in the end i wasnt sure what engine it had init,we think it came out of a gsi2000 with a twin choke webber bolted on.(the induction was louder than my exhaust)  i went passed a very asstonished brand new golf gti vr6 thingie once,not sure how fast i was going the needle had gone all the way round to p in mph

but im much more sencible now honest oflicer

[M-Tek Performance]

even the 2.5's arent that good in standard form.

I was considering a Skyline, but tbh, i think i'll settle for a 3rd cossie

[Jim Bob2]

I had'nt really considered a cossie, never driven one. How do the 2wd's handle? they look a bit twitchy at the back end. Ive never really seen one look happy with the tail out .I would'nt want a 4wd of any kind. A well sorted 2wd for the road is my favorite.
I think the skyline chassis is better sorted, with active 4ws.

There was a time when all the boy racers had cossies and they were 2 a penny, a bit of a chav car but I guess now most of them have been written off and the tables have turned, with the skyline achieving chav status and the cossie more exclusive.
Enginewise they appear to be as tuneable as the skyline, but are the engines as strong?
I seem to remember someone saying turbolag was a problem with them too with one huge turbo.
Finding a bog standard one must be a nightmare and expensive if successfull.

[TheBoy]

Mine is as quick as a 3.0 auto up to 60

Must have been a poor 3.0l auto you are comparing with...

[Paul M]

Mine is as quick as a 3.0 auto up to 60

Must have been a poor 3.0l auto you are comparing with...

Aren't they all? It's a poor unfortunate 3 litre engine that has to be lumbered with that gaybox


Seriously though, I could believe a 2.6 manual will keep up with a 3.0 slushy off the line. The gearing on the slushy is way too high and combined with the power loss it's going to be close. At higher speeds there will probably be more of a difference though.

[Martin_1962]

Mine is as quick as a 3.0 auto up to 60

Must have been a poor 3.0l auto you are comparing with...

Aren't they all? It's a poor unfortunate 3 litre engine that has to be lumbered with that gaybox


Seriously though, I could believe a 2.6 manual will keep up with a 3.0 slushy off the line. The gearing on the slushy is way too high and combined with the power loss it's going to be close. At higher speeds there will probably be more of a difference though.

My 2.6 is an auto, but the 2.6 is lower geared similar to 2.0 but revs higher, a 3.0 goes to over 50 a 2.6 to about 45. Up to 30 the 2.6 is quicker, then a the 3.0 starts to claw back.

On a test road 2.0 reaches 75 (P), 2.6 85 (G), 3.0 87 (kept conking so P)

On another test road 2.0 85 (P), 2.6 just over 100 (P), 3.0 105 (P) (Carlton 90, Sunbeam 100), so on acceleration a 2.6 auto is similar in performance to a 1978 1600 hatch!

At higher speeds the 3.0 is noticably quicker, but under 60 the 2.6 is livelier - so in 30 months time mine will NOT change its rear axle ratio!

[TheBoy]

Mine is as quick as a 3.0 auto up to 60

Must have been a poor 3.0l auto you are comparing with...

Aren't they all? It's a poor unfortunate 3 litre engine that has to be lumbered with that gaybox


Seriously though, I could believe a 2.6 manual will keep up with a 3.0 slushy off the line. The gearing on the slushy is way too high and combined with the power loss it's going to be close. At higher speeds there will probably be more of a difference though.

The gearing is too long, but at certain speeds it can mean faster, as at certain points the slushy will be lower geared at certain speeds.  A manual will (usually) always be quicker though.

Also, remember, much less power loss with the newer firmware

[Martin_1962]

Mine is as quick as a 3.0 auto up to 60

Must have been a poor 3.0l auto you are comparing with...

No it is all in the gearing, over 60 the 3.0 is quicker.

The 2.6 is not that less powerful than the 3.0 and mine was a hire car therefore is nice and loose.

[Martin_1962]

I had'nt really considered a cossie, never driven one. How do the 2wd's handle? they look a bit twitchy at the back end. Ive never really seen one look happy with the tail out .I would'nt want a 4wd of any kind. A well sorted 2wd for the road is my favorite.
I think the skyline chassis is better sorted, with active 4ws.

There was a time when all the boy racers had cossies and they were 2 a penny, a bit of a chav car but I guess now most of them have been written off and the tables have turned, with the skyline achieving chav status and the cossie more exclusive.
Enginewise they appear to be as tuneable as the skyline, but are the engines as strong?
I seem to remember someone saying turbolag was a problem with them too with one huge turbo.
Finding a bog standard one must be a nightmare and expensive if successfull.

Back in the late 80s I had a Sierra Cosworth try to race me when I was on a Suzuki GSX600F, I remember looking behind and seeing it bounce all over the road, he could not keep up when I gave it full throttle

[TheBoy]

I had'nt really considered a cossie, never driven one. How do the 2wd's handle? they look a bit twitchy at the back end. Ive never really seen one look happy with the tail out .I would'nt want a 4wd of any kind. A well sorted 2wd for the road is my favorite.
I think the skyline chassis is better sorted, with active 4ws.

There was a time when all the boy racers had cossies and they were 2 a penny, a bit of a chav car but I guess now most of them have been written off and the tables have turned, with the skyline achieving chav status and the cossie more exclusive.
Enginewise they appear to be as tuneable as the skyline, but are the engines as strong?
I seem to remember someone saying turbolag was a problem with them too with one huge turbo.
Finding a bog standard one must be a nightmare and expensive if successfull.

Back in the late 80s I had a Sierra Cosworth try to race me when I was on a Suzuki GSX600F, I remember looking behind and seeing it bounce all over the road, he could not keep up when I gave it full throttle

Any reasonable bike (ie 4 cylinder 500cc or bigger) will beat any road car with ease.