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[Mr Skrunts]

Yes, still got the paper one, holding on to it as long as I can.

Think the plastic one is a con with a renewal fee of £17.50 every 10 years without a reminder like the VRFL.

[Andy B]

I am talking a few years ago here but the last I knew was that someone having a full car license could ride a bike for ever on L plates :-?

Thats what I thought.

But anyone passing thier test after a certain date, the rules will have changed.

I think we also are able to drive 7.5 tonners and slightly bigger mini busses as well.

Not sure what (if anything gets dropped off once you change from paper to plastic licence)

you're not even allowed to tow a trailler (or a pikey wagon) these days unless you do an additional test.

not alot of people knew that - infact the privillage was removed 1st Jan 1997 so bet many illegal charavans out there now

not as cut & dried as that. those who've passed their test since 97 can tow a trailer as long as the total weight isn't more than 3500kgs. I don't know the whole factsas I don't need to ....... my test was passed Aug 1979  :-? :-?

[KW]

Right, I have grandfather rights on my license including B+E, C1+E, D, etc but when I applied my dad made sure I didn't get Cat A, he had his reasons.

Been thinking about getting a cheap 125 but I am wondering if just doing the CBT would be sufficient, or do I need to get Cat A put back on the license.  :-/

Anyone know the score?

You need provisional entitlement for the class of vehicle you intend to ride, and you'll also need to do the CBT before you can ride on the road.

The CBT lasts for two years, and if you haven't passed your bike test by that time then you'll have to take the CBT again.

[Hannah Judes Dad]

Right, I have grandfather rights on my license including B+E, C1+E, D, etc but when I applied my dad made sure I didn't get Cat A, he had his reasons.

Been thinking about getting a cheap 125 but I am wondering if just doing the CBT would be sufficient, or do I need to get Cat A put back on the license.  :-/

Anyone know the score?

You need provisional entitlement for the class of vehicle you intend to ride, and you'll also need to do the CBT before you can ride on the road.

The CBT lasts for two years, and if you haven't passed your bike test by that time then you'll have to take the CBT again.

That's why I went the full licence route,it means I don't have to have L plates on,renew every two years and it also means if I were to get a 125 I could ride it on the motorway if I so wished.I don't plan on scaring the crap out of myself trying to keep up with traffic on a 125 so I'll stick with my 650 

[KW]

In my day there was no such thing as the CBT, and you could ride up to 250cc on L plates with no power restrictions at all.
The cost of the test was £14, and took 20 minutes to complete from start to finish.

[Hannah Judes Dad]

In my day there was no such thing as the CBT, and you could ride up to 250cc on L plates with no power restrictions at all.
The cost of the test was £14, and took 20 minutes to complete from start to finish.

There was also the get out clause of having a third wheel attached to the bike for those with a car licence that hadn't got a bike licence.The third wheel wasn't always on the ground and was only held on by the smallest of fixings.Too dangerous for todays health and safety brigade.

[Elite Pete]

I took my bike test in 83 or was it 82, just before the new two part test came out .

I had to ride around the block a few times and wait for a bloke with a clip board to jump out infront of me. If I stopped before I hit him I passed

[tunnie]

CBT at your age is 125cc limit, 2 years, no motorway, no pillion + L plates displayed.

CBT is more like a course, its almost impossible to fail. Costs about £100.

The main bike test has changed, i just got through on the old scheme, which is similar to car, weeks course, then off to test, do mixture of town / manoeuvres.

You now have to go to these 'super' test centres, and do a one day off road doing slow speed stuff, you then got to a test centre and do the road bit, you fail one you fail both.

I learnt just for the fun of it, rather than wizzin my money up a wall after a night out

[KW]

CBT at your age is 125cc limit, 2 years, no motorway, no pillion + L plates displayed.

Engine size has nothing to do with the CBT, he will be restricted to 125cc (and no more than 12BHP) until he passes either the restricted or full test.

The CBT proves nothing more than you can start, stop, and steer.

[Chris_H]

DirectGov CBT

When to complete a CBT

You will need to complete a CBT if:

    * you want to ride a motorcycle
    * you want to ride a moped

A moped has an engine not over 50 cc with maximum design speed not exceeding 50 kilometres per hour which is approximately 31 miles per hour

If you obtained your car licence before 1 February 2001 you do not need to complete a CBT to ride a moped.

Well I never knew that.

[Sixstring]

This takes me back......
In my day, driving lessons were £5 a time, and the driving test was £21..........
Took my bike test in 1977, all it consisted of was a bloke on a bike following me for about 5 miles watching me. when we stopped outside the test centre he asked about 5 questions on the highway code, and that was it, passed.
took the test on a yam 100, bought a GT380 three days later, and a kawasaki 750 in the october.

Them was the days......

[tunnie]

CBT at your age is 125cc limit, 2 years, no motorway, no pillion + L plates displayed.

Engine size has nothing to do with the CBT, he will be restricted to 125cc (and no more than 12BHP) until he passes either the restricted or full test.

The CBT proves nothing more than you can start, stop, and steer.

Is that not what i said?

CBT is more like a course, its almost impossible to fail. Costs about £100.

I do know what they are like 

[Sixstring]

A hundred nicker???

Impossible to fail............?

bloody licence to print money!!


Thats why all these 16yo idiots on screaming scooters round my way can't ride the bloody things properly, then.

[tunnie]

A hundred nicker???

Impossible to fail............?

bloody licence to print money!!


Thats why all these 16yo idiots on screaming scooters round my way can't ride the bloody things properly, then.

When i did mine on a manual bike a girl there could just not get hang of gears, she just had zero coordination for it, she was rubbish all day. Come road ride, they stuck her on twist&go, which she did ok on. Of course she passed!

Full test is much harder

[Hannah Judes Dad]

A hundred nicker???

Impossible to fail............?

bloody licence to print money!!


Thats why all these 16yo idiots on screaming scooters round my way can't ride the bloody things properly, then.

When i did mine on a manual bike a girl there could just not get hang of gears, she just had zero coordination for it, she was rubbish all day. Come road ride, they stuck her on twist&go, which she did ok on. Of course she passed!

Full test is much harder

I don't know if it is that bad as I passed mine 
That was a few years ago now,I don't know if I would pass the new test,probably same for car and hgv tests that I have done in the past as well.