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Re: 10,000 Miles on Gas!
« Reply #15 on: 15 July 2010, 18:32:18 »
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You could always ask mummy to fill it up :P.





Actually, thats not a bad idea, as then she would:
a) pay for it
b) have to tolerate the retards serving in BP Brackley


Why do think i will go home after i get the flat?  :P
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Re: 10,000 Miles on Gas!
« Reply #16 on: 15 July 2010, 18:37:31 »
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You could always ask mummy to fill it up :P.





Actually, thats not a bad idea, as then she would:
a) pay for it
b) have to tolerate the retards serving in BP Brackley


Why do think i will go home after i get the flat?  :P
Next time she goes to BP there, I left something behind if she could pick it up for me.......




.....about 10,000 miles worth of rubber.


Those retards do piss me right off....
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Re: 10,000 Miles on Gas!
« Reply #17 on: 15 July 2010, 18:44:06 »
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You could always ask mummy to fill it up :P.





Actually, thats not a bad idea, as then she would:
a) pay for it
b) have to tolerate the retards serving in BP Brackley


Why do think i will go home after i get the flat?  :P
Next time she goes to BP there, I left something behind if she could pick it up for me.......




.....about 10,000 miles worth of rubber.


Those retards do piss me right off....

I'll ask her to get my dust caps too, like a t!t i left all 4 on top of the tyre pump  ;D  :-[  >:(
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Re: 10,000 Miles on Gas!
« Reply #18 on: 15 July 2010, 20:50:16 »
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I thought you needed the petrol bit to heat the water temperature before the vaporizers could work properly?

Yes and no. The vapouriser needs heat input to prevent it icing up but the real reason most LPG systems warm up on petrol is that the engine ECU enriches the mixture so much when cold (required because the petrol is slow to vapourise and clings to the walls of the intake manifold) that it runs too rich on LPG, which is injected as a vapour so requires no enrichment.

I have my system set to switch over at 20 degrees C coolant temperature or a minimum of 30 seconds running and it's fine.

As long as you aren't going to drive it flat out from stone cold (never a great idea) I'd say the vapouriser will probably get enough heat from the coolant for moderate rates of LPG consumption regardless of temperature. LPG boils at -40 after all.

You can also get vapourisers with electric pre-heating to help with cold starting.

The winches at our gliding club are LPG-only (crude mixer systems too) and whilst they are a little reluctant to start on really cold mornings it's not really a problem. The vapourisers are only heated by coolant on those.

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I think my 20C/10s is a bit ambitious.  On a hot day, that 10s just coincides with me turning right out of the works carpark ::)

I have the same settings and find that the enrichment is still causing problems... Have meant to change it for the last 6 weeks ::) ::)
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Re: 10,000 Miles on Gas!
« Reply #19 on: 15 July 2010, 20:53:17 »
Incidentally, TB has said exactly what I was going to. It's an unfair comparison when you compare LPG costs at BP and petrol costs at a Supermarket ;)
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Re: 10,000 Miles on Gas!
« Reply #20 on: 15 July 2010, 21:17:29 »
So *if* I'm over there, I ought to avoid the BP then   :y

This is very well, and I woundn't like to spoil the party, but surely LPG is at it's lowest cost now.  It can only go up ....
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Re: 10,000 Miles on Gas!
« Reply #21 on: 15 July 2010, 21:21:15 »
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So *if* I'm over there, I ought to avoid the BP then   :y

This is very well, and I woundn't like to spoil the party, but surely LPG is at it's lowest cost now.  It can only go up ....

Nope... When I got my first LPG car it was around 35ppl... It's now around 65ppl :o :o :o

But equally, petrol was about 85ppl and now look at it ::)

Currently the duty difference between LPG and petrol will not decrease by more than 1p/year but don't know how long that will last :-/

Must confess, I doubt LPG will be viable for me within the next 5 years. Considering a Lexus Hybrid at the moment :-/
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Re: 10,000 Miles on Gas!
« Reply #22 on: 15 July 2010, 21:23:45 »
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So *if* I'm over there, I ought to avoid the BP then   :y

This is very well, and I woundn't like to spoil the party, but surely LPG is at it's lowest cost now.  It can only go up ....

Nope... When I got my first LPG car it was around 35ppl... It's now around 65ppl :o :o :o

But equally, petrol was about 85ppl and now look at it ::)

Currently the duty difference between LPG and petrol will not decrease by more than 1p/year but don't know how long that will last :-/

Must confess, I doubt LPG will be viable for me within the next 5 years. Considering a Lexus Hybrid at the moment :-/

Noooooo!  :o

A8 Diesel would be more economical...
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Re: 10,000 Miles on Gas!
« Reply #23 on: 15 July 2010, 22:15:38 »
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So *if* I'm over there, I ought to avoid the BP then   :y

This is very well, and I woundn't like to spoil the party, but surely LPG is at it's lowest cost now.  It can only go up ....

Nope... When I got my first LPG car it was around 35ppl... It's now around 65ppl :o :o :o

But equally, petrol was about 85ppl and now look at it ::)

Currently the duty difference between LPG and petrol will not decrease by more than 1p/year but don't know how long that will last :-/

Must confess, I doubt LPG will be viable for me within the next 5 years. Considering a Lexus Hybrid at the moment :-/

Noooooo!  :o

A8 Diesel would be more economical...

That may be... But, and I know it was a rarity, after the bad weather this winter I miss the ground clearance of a 4x4 and the lexus is sensible on RFL as well as fuel... 45+ MPG is easily achievable, although it's a bit of a barge. Still pretty quick up to the speed limits, just slower on the autobahns ::) ::)

Speaking of Autobahns... Any chance you could PM me the details of the European Breakdown Firm you use?
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Re: 10,000 Miles on Gas!
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So *if* I'm over there, I ought to avoid the BP then   :y

This is very well, and I woundn't like to spoil the party, but surely LPG is at it's lowest cost now.  It can only go up ....

Nope... When I got my first LPG car it was around 35ppl... It's now around 65ppl :o :o :o

But equally, petrol was about 85ppl and now look at it ::)

Currently the duty difference between LPG and petrol will not decrease by more than 1p/year but don't know how long that will last :-/

Must confess, I doubt LPG will be viable for me within the next 5 years. Considering a Lexus Hybrid at the moment :-/

Noooooo!  :o

A8 Diesel would be more economical...

That may be... But, and I know it was a rarity, after the bad weather this winter I miss the ground clearance of a 4x4 and the lexus is sensible on RFL as well as fuel... 45+ MPG is easily achievable, although it's a bit of a barge. Still pretty quick up to the speed limits, just slower on the autobahns ::) ::)

Speaking of Autobahns... Any chance you could PM me the details of the European Breakdown Firm you use?

Its no secret, its the ADAC, German version of the AA. Full European cover, and AA cover in the UK. Go for the + version, its around £70 for the year, just ring the German number and ask to speak to an English Adviser  :y

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Re: 10,000 Miles on Gas!
« Reply #25 on: 16 July 2010, 00:09:19 »
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So *if* I'm over there, I ought to avoid the BP then   :y

This is very well, and I woundn't like to spoil the party, but surely LPG is at it's lowest cost now.  It can only go up ....

Nope... When I got my first LPG car it was around 35ppl... It's now around 65ppl :o :o :o

But equally, petrol was about 85ppl and now look at it ::)

Currently the duty difference between LPG and petrol will not decrease by more than 1p/year but don't know how long that will last :-/

Must confess, I doubt LPG will be viable for me within the next 5 years. Considering a Lexus Hybrid at the moment :-/

Noooooo!  :o

A8 Diesel would be more economical...

That may be... But, and I know it was a rarity, after the bad weather this winter I miss the ground clearance of a 4x4 and the lexus is sensible on RFL as well as fuel... 45+ MPG is easily achievable, although it's a bit of a barge. Still pretty quick up to the speed limits, just slower on the autobahns ::) ::)

Speaking of Autobahns... Any chance you could PM me the details of the European Breakdown Firm you use?

Its no secret, its the ADAC, German version of the AA. Full European cover, and AA cover in the UK. Go for the + version, its around £70 for the year, just ring the German number and ask to speak to an English Adviser  :y


So, would that give me full UK cover? and if so what is the number?.....thanks :y
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Re: 10,000 Miles on Gas!
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Re: 10,000 Miles on Gas!
« Reply #27 on: 16 July 2010, 00:50:30 »
Gas only engines already exist. Our fork-lift trucks at work are all 100% gas. They run modified Mazda engines in the small trucks and GM 4.2 V6's in the large ones.  :-? I've read somewhere also that Ford in America are developing gas pick-up trucks.  :o
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Re: 10,000 Miles on Gas!
« Reply #28 on: 16 July 2010, 01:18:20 »
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Gas only engines already exist. Our fork-lift trucks at work are all 100% gas. They run modified Mazda engines in the small trucks and GM 4.2 V6's in the large ones.  :-? I've read somewhere also that Ford in America are developing gas pick-up trucks.  :o

They have been out for uears, We ran gas fork lifts in the early 80's, think they were TCM and powered by Nissan 2 litre engins at the time,
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Re: 10,000 Miles on Gas!
« Reply #29 on: 16 July 2010, 09:18:34 »
Currently, in this country, we need petrol engines as a fallback to gas, as as tunnie points out, occasionally (though rarely) there is not a convenient LPG station.
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