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Lizzie_Zoom

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Re: The 'gay' B & B case.....
« Reply #45 on: 18 January 2011, 20:12:25 »

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Presumably, and I'm no expert mind, that the charming "devout christian" couple take no money on a Sunday?

Thought not.

Funny how religion is used to excuse the least tolerant of behaviour in society :o


I was thinking the same thing BJ! ;)
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Re: The 'gay' B & B case.....
« Reply #46 on: 18 January 2011, 20:13:39 »

I think the fact that so many of us have strong opinions on this shows how highly strung our society has become. I personally feel that we should allow more freedom of expression without persecution, instead of this 'political correctness' in everything. :y
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« Reply #47 on: 18 January 2011, 20:14:50 »

 8-) Thanks for the interesting perspectives on this story, guys :y

 ::)....but what this thread really needs, is a laboured principle, a tantrum and the announcement of an intended huff departure! ;D

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« Reply #48 on: 18 January 2011, 20:15:01 »

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I think the fact that so many of us have strong opinions on this shows how highly strung our society has become. I personally feel that we should allow more freedom of expression without persecution, instead of this 'political correctness' in everything. :y


I think more people should be strung highly. :y
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« Reply #49 on: 18 January 2011, 20:21:39 »

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IMO, yet another miscarraige of justice...  Sure if they have a policy of non married couples sharing a double bed, then they should be able to uphold that policy.   I really beleive that they have made the law fit the case...

Heres a thought i had today, when i heard of this policy......
Do they ask to see proof of all male/female guests asking to book a double room that they are married??
If the gay couple had of been married....would they have been welcome to stay??

Probably, the answer would have been no to both questions....so imo pathetic excuse to use....

If they had said gay couples not welcome, then personally i wouldnt have thought about the case tbh
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Re: The 'gay' B & B case.....
« Reply #50 on: 18 January 2011, 20:29:26 »

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IMO, yet another miscarraige of justice...  Sure if they have a policy of non married couples sharing a double bed, then they should be able to uphold that policy.   I really beleive that they have made the law fit the case...

Heres a thought i had today, when i heard of this policy......
Do they ask to see proof of all male/female guests asking to book a double room that they are married??
If the gay couple had of been married....would they have been welcome to stay??

Probably, the answer would have been no to both questions....so imo pathetic excuse to use....

If they had said gay couples not welcome, then personally i wouldnt have thought about the case tbh
I think they'd had a civil partnership thingy which makes them married in the eyes of the law (who have messed up already on this one) It still should make no difference. I don't recognize or accept such nonsense.
   Men getting married my arse...umm, oh dear, what did i just say?  :-? :-[ :(
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« Reply #51 on: 18 January 2011, 20:30:25 »

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What this discussion needs is some balance. Banjax, Opti.....yer barred! ;D


I was just about to offer my impartial objective opinion too........ ;)


You're too late. Banjax has already stated your opinion.
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« Reply #52 on: 18 January 2011, 20:31:19 »

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I don't know if "Bent Valve" is looking like such a good choice of moniker, having read what you think. ;)
You wouldn't be suggesting that gay people are in any way 'bent' would you ::)
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« Reply #53 on: 18 January 2011, 20:55:02 »

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8-) Thanks for the interesting perspectives on this story, guys :y

 ::)....but what this thread really needs, is a laboured principle, a tantrum and the announcement of an intended huff departure! ;D



 ;D ;D ;D Outstanding. ;D 8-) :y
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Re: The 'gay' B & B case.....
« Reply #54 on: 18 January 2011, 21:08:49 »

I am not a church person...my visits are restricted to 'hatched matched and despatched'.....however, we all have feelings about certain things....
So, because when it comes on TV, for instance, I find that watching two men kissing totally repulsive and turn the telly over, according to some on here, that makes me a bigoted anti-gay >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

I have got no quarrel with gays etc. If thats their want so be it. And before someone jumps on the bandwagon....the same applies to females :y

But as usual in this country, my feelings don't count ;)
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Re: The 'gay' B & B case.....
« Reply #55 on: 18 January 2011, 21:12:51 »

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8-) Thanks for the interesting perspectives on this story, guys :y

 ::)....but what this thread really needs, is a laboured principle, a tantrum and the announcement of an intended huff departure! ;D

Some one elses turn today Debs! :D
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« Reply #56 on: 18 January 2011, 21:22:05 »

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But as usual in this country, my feelings don't count ;)

 ;) Oh yes they do! :y

 
:P Anyway, I`m sure that gay men wouldn`t wish to be seen to be ramming it down your throat! ;D
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« Reply #57 on: 18 January 2011, 21:28:32 »

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Thats a ludicrous thing to say. >:(That sentence was alluding to the fact that it wasnt uncommon 30 years ago to encounter what was reffered to "queer bashing" and the fact that the world (or this part of it) has moved on a long way since then........methinks we are trying to engage in an interesting exchange of views and opinions with a closed and brainwashed mind. ::)
For all you know I may be Gay. I am standing up for what I believe to be the rights of a couple who happen to be Christian, although Im not a Christian. Its nothing to do with my own personal religious beliefs, or orientation. Im simply saying it because I believe it to be right.
Maybe you dont believe I should have the right to do that ?
The veiled threat ?...of "I fear you may be........." would possibly suggest so. ;)
I would also be interested in your opinion on the fact that there are many hotels which specifically cater for Gays. Is their existence not discriminatory against hetrosexuals ?

Albs - don't want to leave this on a bad note so let me try to answer your points.

Thanks for the clarification of your meaning on militants etc. I don't equate queer bashing with the actions of these two blokes (& whichever organisation may have supported them). So I was not suggesting a return to QBing. Instead, I was saying that there is an opportunity for OOF members (who feel strongly about it) to bring a case against any gay hotels that discriminate against straight guests. See my post somewhere above (about 7.05) about the Equality Act.

Of course you have the right to your views - it was never my intention to suggest otherwise, and I'd be interested to understand what I may have written that created that impression.

 "I fear you may be ..." - OK, fair point, on reflection this is weaselly - not intended to be a veiled threat. Substitute the more assertive "I think you are being discriminatory on grounds of sexual orientation here. A person's willingness to stand up for their rights is not a function of their sexual orientation."

K
EDIT - your fourth point  - for the avoidance of doubt, IMO gay hotels which discriminate against heterosexuals are in the wrong - they have to keep up and provide the same service to all. But there's an important difference here between "discriminating against" and "catering for". If they want to "cater for", let them go ahead and do it. Just like Christian hotels, etc etc - if it's just a difference of taste and style, that's what diversity is all about. Provided it does not treat anyone unfairly.
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Re: The 'gay' B & B case.....
« Reply #58 on: 18 January 2011, 21:56:04 »

Sorry guys, seems I missed out on all the fun, I was doing my nails playing rugby  ::) ::) ::)
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Re: The 'gay' B & B case.....
« Reply #59 on: 18 January 2011, 22:11:49 »

Oh Guffer... I've just gotta post this again. Work is'nt easy!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvvMdCTA_os :-*
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