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[Kevin Wood]

He deserves all he got, and more. If he'd been a bit more observant and spotted that he was being followed when he was only doing a ton or so he might have got more lenient treatment. 

Rights and wrongs of speeding aside, if you're going to be doing that sort of speed in/on anything, you need to be aware of your surroundings, and someone spotted following that keenly is probably best left to pass you before you do any more showing-off...

Whereby they may or not they then proceed to pull you over and give you a lecture.

 

Kevin

[Hannah Judes Dad]

now i dont ride bikes but someone who does please explain how you can be in full control doing 149 on the back wheel 

Wheelies are all about balance and throttle control.If you get those two correct it is possible to do just about as fast as you dare,it is done at Elvington airfield (The place where Richard Hammond crashed badly a few years ago) to see who can do the fastest and longest wheelie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRI33nfsryQ

[dragonlord]

he wasn't doing 149 while Wheeling that was at a mush slower speed

the 149 was the cops speed catching up i estimate about 130 max on at times

the most dangerous thing i saw in that video was the the moron cop with the cam doing 140+

a few feet of his tail pipe

but hey there so well trained and there breaks must work better than everyone elses

hes the one what should get the ban

[r1]

he wasn't doing 149 while Wheeling that was at a mush slower speed

the 149 was the cops speed catching up i estimate about 130 max on at times

the most dangerous thing i saw in that video was the the moron cop with the cam doing 140+

a few feet of his tail pipe

but hey there so well trained and there breaks must work better than everyone elses

hes the one what should get the ban

point well made
if it was that unsafe why was the cop on a unmarked bike doing that speed?
what if the cop had lost it and come through your window?

[feeutfo]

love all this, fair play Turk      .... and no comment from him yet. 

...it takes a great deal of control to wheely a bike. Can you do it? q the righteuos cries "i wouldnt want to " on a subject they know sweet fa about.   

as Kevin says, one glance in the mirror and he should have sussed the tailing bike out, unmarked or not they are easy to spot if you "look"

However, given the distance to the subject, the tailing officer was not riding in a manner i would expect from a trained plod, far too close needing a big hand full of front brake at one point, so not imediately obvious???

... and i didnt see a brake light on the speeders bike at any point, so either didnt brake or the brake light wasnt working, either way too close! (or i didnt see it in the video, crap quality, i wanted a proper look )

...so, may well have had two bikes pile through the back window of your car....   


if your going to pull thats stuff on the road, really need to be a bit smarter than that tbh.....  dumb dumb!   

[feeutfo]

...and as for those that bang on about excessive speed, this is exactly why you, yes YOU need to judge whats coming up behind you!... that speeding vehichle has a human being in/on it, weather it be a mindless idiot, or a well trained member of the constabulary....!

... i can well see one of the righteous crew seeing one of these "mindless humans" in the mirror and deliberately or unwittingly pulling out thinking it ok as the other vehichle is obviously speeding.... WRONG!   might, just might be an unmarked plod. 

[hotel21]

The chapor chapette on the bike has, in my eyes, chosen the wrong time/date/place to excercise their skills.

The cop on the bike was trying to track the errant biker, hence the keeping the constant distance in most of the proceedings.  The fact that the distance is apparently overly close may well be due to the camera specifics.

Not going into the legalities or safety aspects too much of the follow but, suffice to say, the police biker was doing a job of work and the fast biker was nicked.

If the errant biker was going more slowly, would there be such a song and dance?

And yes, the errant biker failed at the first hurdle by not checking their mirrors either earlier or more frequently.

I know of a few highway heroes who openly admit that when they are out to play, the first time they see another bike to their rear they resort to normality, just in case its an unmarked bike.

And, as Chrisgixxer says, irrespective of the rights and wrongs of the whole affair, folks really need to check their mirrors more often for bikes/vehicles catching up fast from behind.  Acting like an unpaid vigilante, howsoever well intentioned, inevitably ends in tears, one way or another.

All, of course, in my humble personal opinion...

[Banjax]

fk 'im - one less power ranger on the road and a nice harvest of organs for the local a & e - go faster ya big jessie - faster damn you!! 

i wonder if i'd sustain a scratch in a car? his best hope is to rag doll over the roof and land safely on tarmac with maybe just half of him horribly disfigured for life......maybe just his head would make it over the roof, amusing but someone would have to clean the blood and guts from the rear parcel shelf or would he just mash into the back with little or no air?  :-?

[hotel21]

fk 'im - one less power ranger on the road and a nice harvest of organs for the local a & e - go faster ya big jessie - faster damn you!! 

i wonder if i'd sustain a scratch in a car? his best hope is to rag doll over the roof and land safely on tarmac with maybe just half of him horribly disfigured for life......maybe just his head would make it over the roof, amusing but someone would have to clean the blood and guts from the rear parcel shelf or would he just mash into the back with little or no air?  :-?

Close, but not quite.

I have seen, sadly, more than one instance of a bike literally travelling through a car.  And I mean that.  In one corner/side and out the other.

Sometimes people lived, sometimes people died.

Its why Police try to police.  And why some folks have to come over self righteous and fight arguments from only the one perspective rather than look at the whole affair in entirety.

[Hannah Judes Dad]

fk 'im - one less power ranger on the road and a nice harvest of organs for the local a & e - go faster ya big jessie - faster damn you!! 

i wonder if i'd sustain a scratch in a car? his best hope is to rag doll over the roof and land safely on tarmac with maybe just half of him horribly disfigured for life......maybe just his head would make it over the roof, amusing but someone would have to clean the blood and guts from the rear parcel shelf or would he just mash into the back with little or no air?  :-?

This question is not that easy to answer as it depends upon the impact speed,mass of the rider,type of bike and type of car.
If the impact speed is high enough and the rider is on a sports bike as opposed to a tourer the body is sitting further forward with more weight on the wrists and forearms.This is easier to help launch the rider over the bars but could still catch his feet or legs on the bars as he/she is flown forward.If this happens the the rider may impact the rear of the car but further up the rear window or may just glance the roof.As both the car and bike were still travelling at point of impact the car would not stop quickly enough and there is a possibility that the rider may go over the car and then get run over by the same car.Not good in anyones book.

[feeutfo]

fk 'im - one less power ranger on the road and a nice harvest of organs for the local a & e - go faster ya big jessie - faster damn you!! 

i wonder if i'd sustain a scratch in a car? his best hope is to rag doll over the roof and land safely on tarmac with maybe just half of him horribly disfigured for life......maybe just his head would make it over the roof, amusing but someone would have to clean the blood and guts from the rear parcel shelf or would he just mash into the back with little or no air?  :-?

 ... or, in a touche style...

hopefully he'll jump, leaving the bike planted in the car and hence removing one more righteuos idiot from the earth, while his air bag equiped leathers dampen the blows allowing him to walk away...


... go on then BJ, your turn  lets see how low we can get... 

[Hannah Judes Dad]

H21 speaks from plenty of experience in this subject the only time I have known of it was when a biker thought he could get past a tractor with a plough attachment on it,dropped down two gear opened it up too early and became part of the tractor's rear wheel.He won't get chance to ride anything again as he and his pillion were beheaded.Needless to say it is something that I don't want to do on my bike.

[Hannah Judes Dad]

 ... or, in a touche style...

hopefully he'll jump, leaving the bike planted in the car and hence removing one more righteuos thingy from the earth, while his air bag equiped leathers dampen the blows allowing him to walk away...

God bless Dainese 

[Kevin Wood]

This question is not that easy to answer as it depends upon the impact speed,mass of the rider,type of bike and type of car....

Bottom line, though, it's kinetic energy.  E=1/2mv²

300kg of bike doing 150MPH = 1750kg of Omega doing 60MPH. And the bike's energy delivered to a pretty small frontal area. Plenty of potential to hurt people in both cases.

Kevin

[I am a Daisy]

love all this, fair play Turk      .... and no comment from him yet. 

...it takes a great deal of control to wheely a bike. Can you do it? q the righteuos cries "i wouldnt want to " on a subject they know sweet fa about.   

as Kevin says, one glance in the mirror and he should have sussed the tailing bike out, unmarked or not they are easy to spot if you "look"

However, given the distance to the subject,    , so not imediately obvious???

... and i didnt see a brake light on the speeders bike at any point, so either didnt brake or the brake light wasnt working, either way too close! (or i didnt see it in the video, crap quality, i wanted a proper look )

...so, may well have had two bikes pile through the back window of your car....   


if your going to pull thats stuff on the road, really need to be a bit smarter than that tbh.....  dumb dumb!   

Totally agree with Chris on most of his point and especially about the video quality, I too would like to have anylise the riders demeanour and that of the police bike following esp the bit leading up to when he has to pile on his brakes. The bike cop has a job to do certainly but he had ample time to signal to the biker to pull over or better yet to pass him and pull him over as he already had enough evidence.