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[CaptainZok]

Yeah it's terrible. While we're on the subject though, I've got to say, just speaking generally, not many people, kids included seem to have respect for the roads these days.

I'm not talking about this case I know nothing about it.

People just walk out in the road and expect that you'll stop for them. Well you will stop if you've seen them. But that's difficult at night with oncoming headlights when the muppet is dressed all in black!

If someone worked in a factory, they would stay well clear of a 2 tonne piece of metal moving towards them at 30 mph. Why do people not have the same sense of self preservation on the roads?

Last year I got turned out to a crash where a 12/13 year old lad had been run over. The car was on top of him. He died. All his mates were there crying their eyes out while the paramedics were trying to save him. Yeah the driver was speeding. The next month I saw the same faces crossing at the place showing utter disregard for safety and laughing about it.

Parents (mothers mainly) fly about in their new cars, speeding, parking right outside the school causing a hazard, on the phone, driving crap, near schools and kids. But god help you if you knock their child over. It's ok for them to do it though.

Where have all those public safety/information adverts gone? Lots of people would benefit from them.

When I was a kid the road safety brigade pushed the concept of looking both ways and listening for traffic before you crossed the road.
Nowadays that's been forgotten in favour of browbeating the motorist to slow down and hence putting the responsibility squarely on the driver rather than both parties to use the roads safely.
Which makes me wonder if this is where the attitude springs from.

[albitz]

Cant begin to imagine the heartbreak of the poor parents.A child should never die before its parents. There isnt anything worse.

[Vamps]

It's the hit and RUN bit that gets me.....Why run? unless you were in the wrong....

I had a near miss with a 4 year old a few years ago, his fault but as a driver I have a responsibility to be alert and anticipate, I was in a 30 and not speeding I stopped but he or his mother put him at further risk by calling him back which put him in front of my car twice..... I really thought I was going to have to call an ambulance for her she was in such a state of shock........

[Kevin Wood]

Yeah it's terrible. While we're on the subject though, I've got to say, just speaking generally, not many people, kids included seem to have respect for the roads these days.

That's because everyone, pedestrian or driver, young or old enough to know better, seems to swan around in a world where nobody else matters than themselves these days.

I hope this causes ten times as much heartache to the coward who drove off as it undoubtedly will to the family of the poor kid.

[blackviper90210]

Yeah it's terrible. While we're on the subject though, I've got to say, just speaking generally, not many people, kids included seem to have respect for the roads these days.

I'm not talking about this case I know nothing about it.

People just walk out in the road and expect that you'll stop for them. Well you will stop if you've seen them. But that's difficult at night with oncoming headlights when the muppet is dressed all in black!

If someone worked in a factory, they would stay well clear of a 2 tonne piece of metal moving towards them at 30 mph. Why do people not have the same sense of self preservation on the roads?

Last year I got turned out to a crash where a 12/13 year old lad had been run over. The car was on top of him. He died. All his mates were there crying their eyes out while the paramedics were trying to save him. Yeah the driver was speeding. The next month I saw the same faces crossing at the place showing utter disregard for safety and laughing about it.

Parents (mothers mainly) fly about in their new cars, speeding, parking right outside the school causing a hazard, on the phone, driving crap, near schools and kids. But god help you if you knock their child over. It's ok for them to do it though.

Where have all those public safety/information adverts gone? Lots of people would benefit from them.

Whatever happened to the Green Cross Code Ad, that was straight to the point, basic life preservation advice!!

Every day I take my toddler to Nursery in Bromsgrove which is part of the college and next to the High School. The road leading to all 3 places is just wide enough for 2 cars passing, but the road is filled with parked cars half on the road and half on the pavement.
There is very little room between them to squeeze through, but knowing this, the teenagers going into school, don't care, they just blindly cross in large groups irrelevant of any traffic!
Friday gone, there was a group of about 8 walking along, 4 on the pavement 4 on the road, line abreast as I was coming towards them. I can't believe they wanted to play chicken with a large car at 20mph?
They did move though when they realised I wouldn't!! 

There is no respect for the road anymore, but god forbid you may clip one.... straight away...driver to blame! 

We maybe more technologically advanced, but common sense is no longer!  :-/

[Olympia5776]

There's nothing on the box tonight so I was going to spend the evening winding Albs up. Pensions are an emotive subject and I was looking  forward to spouting any old rubbish just to get him going.


I've just heard that a six-year-old lad from up the road has been killed in a hit and run. When I was on the way back from town I saw an ambulance with police cars front and rear. Little did I know who was in it. 

It has knocked the stuffing out of me and put a lot of things into perspective.

I understand that.
On two occassions in the last year local events just stopped me in my tracks and made me sit down and look at things on a higher level.
S'funny how you just bop along unaware of what could easily be , maybe thats no bad thing though.....
I cannot begin to think of how that family must feel and I feel so very sad on this day for them.

[STMO123]

Just driven up and put some flowers at the scene, little teddies and cars there, I cried like a baby.


Apparently, the talk of the car being found was not true. There's just been an appeal for info on news 24.

[albitz]

Been mentioned on Sky news as well.

[bigboykarl]

Whenever a child dies unnecessarily it's a tragedy that has far reaching & long lasting repercussions within the immediate family and beyond 
But as Geoff so succinctly states, Road Awareness/Safety is a sadly lacking skill among todays youngsters & dare I say it, their Parents? 
 I take my Grand-daughter to school 3 days a week & pick her up in the afternoons, and each journey I can guarantee seeing more than one 'mother' with a mobile 'phone either clamped to her ear in earnest conversation, or else texting on the bloody thing with a 'thousand yard stare' on her face either leading a bairn across the road with no inclination of what is going on around her or else crossing the road herself with a breadsnapper in a pushchair & leaving the child to follow at its own volition with no thought to its safety or wellbeing!
And don't start me on the young morons who deliberately cross the road in front of you with the attitude of 'hit me if you dare mate!'
I know i've become an 'Old Fart' & a Victor Meldrew these past few years, but bugger me, Society has declined so badly in the past 20 years I now despair for my children & grandchildren in the future!

got quite a few of them in my area...they see you coming as they're crossing and purposely walk slower as if they're challenging you...personally i just aim for them and put my foot down

[Martin_1962]

Whenever a child dies unnecessarily it's a tragedy that has far reaching & long lasting repercussions within the immediate family and beyond 
But as Geoff so succinctly states, Road Awareness/Safety is a sadly lacking skill among todays youngsters & dare I say it, their Parents? 
 I take my Grand-daughter to school 3 days a week & pick her up in the afternoons, and each journey I can guarantee seeing more than one 'mother' with a mobile 'phone either clamped to her ear in earnest conversation, or else texting on the bloody thing with a 'thousand yard stare' on her face either leading a bairn across the road with no inclination of what is going on around her or else crossing the road herself with a breadsnapper in a pushchair & leaving the child to follow at its own volition with no thought to its safety or wellbeing!
And don't start me on the young morons who deliberately cross the road in front of you with the attitude of 'hit me if you dare mate!'
I know i've become an 'Old Fart' & a Victor Meldrew these past few years, but bugger me, Society has declined so badly in the past 20 years I now despair for my children & grandchildren in the future!

got quite a few of them in my area...they see you coming as they're crossing and purposely walk slower as if they're challenging you...personally i just aim for them and put my foot down

Seen a chav cyclist do that to a car in front of me - actually stopped.

One tried similar to me a few months ago, I got kickdown he ran.

BTW chavs in late teens or 20s

[jonnycool]

Just driven up and put some flowers at the scene, little teddies and cars there, I cried like a baby.


Apparently, the talk of the car being found was not true. There's just been an appeal for info on news 24.

Must have been heart-wrenching Steve, so sorry 

[hercules]

Just driven up and put some flowers at the scene, little teddies and cars there, I cried like a baby.


Apparently, the talk of the car being found was not true. There's just been an appeal for info on news 24.

Must have been heart-wrenching Steve, so sorry 

2nd that jonny

[Amigo]

As others have said, how could the driver leave the scene? That's deplorable.

   I know i can be a bit of a cock at times but even i have the moral fibre to stay & face the music.

   rather' coward!

[bigegg]

just to be devils advocate - we have no idea of the circumstances surrounding this, obviously, tragic incident.

There *are* reasons why a driver could leave the scene of an accident - blind panic being just one.

I hope to gods I am never in this sitiuation, and would hope that I would stop and own up.
but until I have been in the situation I can't presume to judge someone else.

Course, if it *IS* a foreign/chav/uninsured/drunk/inexperienced/woman/  driver -

boil em slowly in their own juices.

[Broomies Mate]

just to be devils advocate - we have no idea of the circumstances surrounding this, obviously, tragic incident.

There *are* reasons why a driver could leave the scene of an accident - blind panic being just one.

I hope to gods I am never in this sitiuation, and would hope that I would stop and own up.
but until I have been in the situation I can't presume to judge someone else.

Course, if it *IS* a foreign/chav/uninsured/drunk/inexperienced/woman/  driver -

boil em slowly in their own juices.

Good point and well put, but anyone who ran in a 'blind panic' would have since had time to rationalise and take him/herself to the local police station to make a report.

Whilst we all attempt to find a good reason for someones actions (we are all human) this is not something which can be justified.