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[Elite Pete]

Looks lite they've drilled the plenum on the left and fitted a single inlet for the gas. When tou have a backfire the MAF will kop it big time

[JamesV6CDX]

Cannot believe what I'm seeing if this is a professional installer. I'd love to see this car in the flesh.

[Martin_1962]

Cannot believe what I'm seeing if this is a professional installer. I'd love to see this car in the flesh.

Can I get critical?

The water feed pipes are all over the place, the kit is not ideal for the car.

The evaporator is restricted to where it can go but looks like it is in the way

[JamesV6CDX]

That's the least of his worries - but I agree

I'd be more worried about starving the bodies of coolant, AND insufficuent coolant for the evaporator

Its clearly not been done right.

[tunnie]

Danny you were sold a "Dream" kit or something?

Is it this?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DIY-LPG-kit-by-OMVL-WHY-PAY-OVER-1-for-PETROL_W0QQitemZ260218447671QQihZ016QQcategoryZ36631QQcmdZViewItem

If so thats it with Injectors...



Danny, my advice, take this back.

As for a FULL refund.

Buy the DIY kit, speak very nicly to JamesV6, donate to his beer fund, and you will have a MUCH better sytem.  

[Danny]

response from garage when i asked last week "the injectors are mounted below the plenum to give a more direct feed"

it's already going back tomorrow anyway, so having read all your comments, i shall be taking the printouts of these threads with me

[Marks DTM Calib]

Er.....they are injecting gas BEFORE the MAF which isnt good at all!

[JamesV6CDX]

response from garage when i asked last week "the injectors are mounted below the plenum to give a more direct feed"

it's already going back tomorrow anyway, so having read all your comments, i shall be taking the printouts of these threads with me

Are we missing something? Are there maybe injectors under the plenum?

Strange thing is... why is there gas going into the inlet then? And I can't see anything going from the evaporator to any injectors, so how does the gas get there?

Is there a chance we may be wrong? Or has Danny been had?

Still doesn't excuse that water feed though, that is a discrace...

[tunnie]

response from garage when i asked last week "the injectors are mounted below the plenum to give a more direct feed"

it's already going back tomorrow anyway, so having read all your comments, i shall be taking the printouts of these threads with me

Are we missing something? Are there maybe injectors under the plenum?

Strange thing is... why is there gas going into the inlet then? And I can't see anything going from the evaporator to any injectors, so how does the gas get there?

Is there a chance we may be wrong? Or has Danny been had?

Still doesn't excuse that water feed though, that is a discrace...

I was thinking that, maybe they say they put the injectors under the plenum, so people think its SGI when its not...

Humm  :-/

Danny can you see any leccy cables/pipes going onto the plenum area?

Better still pop the plenum off and take some piccies

[JamesV6CDX]

just follow the gas pipe from the evaporator. If it doesn't end up at an injector block then it aint SGI!

This does look to be a single point mixer to me... and if it's SGI, then I've no idea why they are injecting gas into the inlet then!!

If you have a SGI kit listed on the bill/quote, then they have no case, you can take them to the cleaners...

[Danny]

I thought it was a bit cheap - how does it drive?

And why was the loan car not LPG converted?

they run a car sales too, and basically just gave me a car off the forecourt, which i didnt realise til today when i saw it back on there with a price in the window

just follow the gas pipe from the evaporator. If it doesn't end up at an injector block then it aint SGI!

This does look to be a single point mixer to me... and if it's SGI, then I've no idea why they are injecting gas into the inlet then!!

If you have a SGI kit listed on the bill/quote, then they have no case, you can take them to the cleaners...

paperwork says full multipoint gas system as does my deposit slip

[JamesV6CDX]

Looks lite they've drilled the plenum on the left and fitted a single inlet for the gas. When tou have a backfire the MAF will kop it big time

I don't think that's a gas inlet, I think that is a vaccum for the vaporisor...

[JamesV6CDX]

danny, can you go out now, with your camera, and trace the hoses from the evaporator and find those injectors?

Important to know before you complain.. .

[Danny]

unfortunately i dont have time to photo yet, today's a busy day, tis my birthday and seemingly not a good one off out with the girlfriend so with any luck i might be a bit more cheerful later

I'd asked about the injectors straight away when i noticed they werent on top like i'd seen on others on here, and they said they'd attatched them just below at the sides, and showed me what you see on the photos just below the plenum on the sides

regarding coolant tank, this will be a new one to you all but they say they now bypass the coolant tank so it doesnt need the feed that Elite Pete mentioned in the first reply, the coolant still does its job properly, and they do the same on BMW and Range Rover

[JamesV6CDX]

They are talking rubbish re. the coolant. Having seen that setup, they have

A) Taken a coolant feed away from a crucial engine component that NEEDS a hot coolant feed. AWFUL practice.

B) Taken the feed for the evaporator from a source which is not constantly flowing with coolant, and does not have a high flow rate (v small pipe diameter) so it's nowhere near sufficient to heat the evaporator and hence vaporise the gas, I suspect this is a contributing factor to the idle problems.

Regardless of the kit/injector issues, I am happy to say that purely based on the above two points, I would not let them convert my lawnmower, let alone a range rover!!

That feed needs to come from the coolant bridge, down to the evaporator, and then back to the HBV inlet. That is the ONLY acceptable way.