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[JamesV6CDX]

Well, I have got the locking kit and new belt kit waiting to go. However I have encountered a problem with the crankshaft locking tool from the kit I have bought. The tool does not lock the crank in the correct place. I line up the timing just before t.d.c and attatch the tool. I then keep going until the tool locks onto the water pump,( just like in Robin Hoods DVD), It seems to over shoot. When I remove the tool it has gone past t.d.c on the crankshaft pully marks.  The tool does not line up in either way, niether with t.d.c or in line with the w. pump pully. It actually misses it as if its too far foward, towards the front of the car. If I move it about it will lock up, although not very well. I could bend it back a little to line it up but as its new I dont want to break it so if its no good, I can send it back. The set is from lazer tools and is the right kit, any ideas? As I said though, even if the tool was in line with the pump pulley it will still allow the crank to go beyond T.d.c,(according to the marks on the crank pulley).
comments very welcome!

I had EXACTLY the same issue, I bet it's a crappy laser kit  

[JamesV6CDX]

Did you happen to order it from A2Z MOTORIST CENTER/ Ziggy-a2z on fleabay?

They probably sent you the bloody duff kit I sent back, if so !!

I have 3 words - send it back. The laser rubbish just isn't good enough. I've heard they make for sealey etc.. I don't care.. I have no confidence in them!

Get an SP kit

I bet it looked like this:

[JamesV6CDX]

When I initially requested a refund they were arsey, told me to speak to laser technical, get a reference etc...

When I opened a paypal dispute, quoted the trade descriptions act "goods were unfit for purpose sold for" and told them I would leave negative feedback if no reply in a week.. I had a VERY fast and satisfactory outcome

[neilr]

Hi just to let you know the tensioner bearing collapsed on my 2.5cdx and was lucky enough to get away with a new belt kit. When I first heard the noise it made I thought i was in for an engine rebuild or exchange unit. The only thing I cant confirm is whether the belt had slipped at all as the job was completed by a local garage who Ive known for years and did the job following day for £220 including the new parts!

[Kevin Wood]

I do appologise for not noticing this thread had moved on since my offer for help. The offer still stands. PM sent.

I have a locking kit - a Laser one but it has been used successfully on a couple of occasions thus hopefully proving it fits.

It might be worth having a fettle at lunch time as the light in the evenings is getting a bit dim these days. I can bring my locking kit tomorrow - or we can maybe arrange something at the weekend?

Cheers,

kevin

[El_Swervo]

Did you happen to order it from A2Z MOTORIST CENTER/ Ziggy-a2z on fleabay?

They probably sent you the bloody duff kit I sent back, if so !!

I have 3 words - send it back. The laser rubbish just isn't good enough. I've heard they make for sealey etc.. I don't care.. I have no confidence in them!

Get an SP kit

I bet it looked like this:

Hey james, spot on! yes to all your questions, I thought I was going mad! Why is it that people with e-bay shops think they can send this crap out again when there is obviously something wrong with it? It does make me a little angry,(polite version). I will contact them today and give them the good news.
 Kevin Wood has used a laser kit it seems with some success, I may be able to compare the two tools as he is local to me.
Where do I get and how much does a sykes P kit go for? as you know this one was £60 and in my budget range, however it seems you get what you pay for!

[El_Swervo]

Hi just to let you know the tensioner bearing collapsed on my 2.5cdx and was lucky enough to get away with a new belt kit. When I first heard the noise it made I thought i was in for an engine rebuild or exchange unit. The only thing I cant confirm is whether the belt had slipped at all as the job was completed by a local garage who Ive known for years and did the job following day for £220 including the new parts!

Thanks neilr, I hope I have your luck!

[TheBoy]

Did you happen to order it from A2Z MOTORIST CENTER/ Ziggy-a2z on fleabay?

They probably sent you the bloody duff kit I sent back, if so !!

I have 3 words - send it back. The laser rubbish just isn't good enough. I've heard they make for sealey etc.. I don't care.. I have no confidence in them!

Get an SP kit

I bet it looked like this:

Hey james, spot on! yes to all your questions, I thought I was going mad! Why is it that people with e-bay shops think they can send this crap out again when there is obviously something wrong with it? It does make me a little angry,(polite version). I will contact them today and give them the good news.
 Kevin Wood has used a laser kit it seems with some success, I may be able to compare the two tools as he is local to me.
Where do I get and how much does a sykes P kit go for? as you know this one was £60 and in my budget range, however it seems you get what you pay for!

I picked my SP one up for £50ish, and other have too...

[JamesV6CDX]

Did you happen to order it from A2Z MOTORIST CENTER/ Ziggy-a2z on fleabay?

They probably sent you the bloody duff kit I sent back, if so !!

I have 3 words - send it back. The laser rubbish just isn't good enough. I've heard they make for sealey etc.. I don't care.. I have no confidence in them!

Get an SP kit

I bet it looked like this:

Hey james, spot on! yes to all your questions, I thought I was going mad! Why is it that people with e-bay shops think they can send this crap out again when there is obviously something wrong with it? It does make me a little angry,(polite version). I will contact them today and give them the good news.
 Kevin Wood has used a laser kit it seems with some success, I may be able to compare the two tools as he is local to me.
Where do I get and how much does a sykes P kit go for? as you know this one was £60 and in my budget range, however it seems you get what you pay for!

I picked my SP one up for £50ish, and other have too...

I just bought an SP kit off ebay for £50, but they are quite rare (but do come up..)

Just keep looking out.

You're welcome to borrow if you cover insured postage... but send that laser crap back!

[El_Swervo]

I will be searching e-bay for another kit and sending the other back! hopefully nobody else will get caught out!
I think I will also talk to laser and find out why they have messed up.

[Kevin Wood]

Well, we spent the evening on  EL_swervo's Omega in perfect working conditions. I wasn't looking forward to spending the evening in a works car park in this weather but I shouldn't have worried

Firstly we confirmed that the Laser tool didn't align with the water pump pulley so back to the seller for that I reckon. Fortunately mine fitted and on inspection cam 3 was a couple of teeth out and cam 4 was a good 3 teeth out (advanced, fortunately, which is the safe direction for an exhaust cam to be out). The tensioner was loose, barely off the stop and, whilst the belt clearly hadn't failed it was cracking up on the smooth side.

There were signs of a ham-fisted belt change previously. The cam belt cover was cracked and the rubber sealing strip was missing. The tensioners were as new. Given the condition of the belt this was surprising.

We fitted a new belt and tensioners and timed it up properly, put it all back together and started it. For a few heart stopping seconds it rattled like mad but then started to quieten down. It clearly wasn't misfiring so it was looking better then we feared. We then noticed an "oil lack" warning on the MID and, on inspection the oil level was low.

With the oil topped up we gave it another run and, after a second or two of rattling it quietened down and idled and revved very sweetly. A quick listen with a screwdriver to the ear revealed no unusual noises from the top end.

The original noise started when the car was on a hill so my suspicion is that the oil pickup sucked a little air due to the low level and that the noise was the lifters running on air. Whilst the cam belt was in poor condition and very badly timed it was odd that only cams 3 and 4 were out so I suspect that it may have been mistimed when it was fitted since the last person in there was clearly bit of a cowboy.

Anyway, I await a report on how it drives now. A little better then before with luck.

It was good to meet you, EL_swervo, and thanks for the all the tea and freebies

Kevin

[ffcgary1]

That is great news kevin, and well done, what a piece of luck that he had there, just goes to how that some people should not be allowed near a car let alone a timing belt!!

 

[JamesV6CDX]

Well done Kev, and guys, top job

[El_Swervo]

Well my hat is well and truely off to Kevin, as he spent his whole evening with me and my car! Thank you again Kevin!
Yes what a piece of luck! I didnt notice the oil lack before and I do check the oil weekly, (ish)! I will pay a lot more attention in class now so I dont get a repeat of this episode. A top end treatment may be in order to get the oil going where it should. The car does drive a lot smoother it seems as I suppose it should when it was running with the cams out of sinc before. I do think it had slipped though at least a bit because as Kevin said it was at worse nearly 3 teeth out on no 4 and 2 on 3.
I would like to point out that it wasnt me that "did" the cam belt job before! I Bought the car from a dealer and he had a mechanic that did all his work for him, but to be fair the cambelt was done 20K miles before I bought it so it probably wasnt him either.
Thank you to ALL of you who posted help and encouragement, very much appreciated
Cheers Kevin
El Swervo

[The Cambelt Kid]

Nice one guys, that was a nice bed time story with a happy ending!

It's always the case with engine related problems, for most people (like me) always think the worst, bent valves, snapped this, blown that!  But with a little know how from OOF and lots of tea, these things usually iron out pretty well in the end!