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[Kevin Wood]

After reading a bit I understand it's best to top up the oil when the oil is warm.... hows that going to happen if I can't take the car for a drive to warm it up?? Would it be best to top up the oil as best as possible.... take it for a drive(assuming the gearbox isn't a goner) and then re-top up?

Yep. Top it up with the engine running and box cold as best you can, move it through each position on the gear selector with engine still running, top up again if it'll take more, then take it for a gentle drive. Chances are the fluid will expand when hot so when you check it hot it'll actually lose some fluid.

There's a HOWTO on gearbox fluid change which covers draining and changing / cleaning the filter.

I would be inclined to see if it recovers with a fluid top-up before going too much further.

Kevin

[Dave-C]

1st thing... went around roundabout and it went. Was getting a tad lumpy on changes as well, so am definately erring on the side of caution and thinking it's the levels.

@theBoy: It did around 10 maybe 20 yards or so with it slipping. Had to do that so I wasn't on roundabout....think that will have killed it?? It still "clunks" when I put it into gear, just doesn't go anywhere.

After reading a bit I understand it's best to top up the oil when the oil is warm.... hows that going to happen if I can't take the car for a drive to warm it up?? Would it be best to top up the oil as best as possible.... take it for a drive(assuming the gearbox isn't a goner) and then re-top up?

As for filter box etc.... any links on removal/replacing?

Cheers chaps.

Thanks Dave C for the link.... will give him a phone if new box needed.

Hi PaulyQ, Notice that you're from Hartlepool...  If you have to come to Shropshire to collect you could borrow a Canoe to come in, there's a river close by

Sorry, I thought it was funny....  really hope the top up works....  Best of Luck..DC

[PaulyQ]

Yes Dave.... Hartlepool... twinned with Panama  

[sassanach]

 check the oil level if correct then the fun really starts.

[PaulyQ]

Hi Sass,

NOT the thing to say  

If the box still works I will thank Santa personally for an early xmas pressie. Got it booked in for the next few days to get sorted (levels/filters).

If knackered, ar35 box on standby with Thrust Washer.

It's either £100 or £400++  ...... I know which one I'm going for!!  

[sassanach]

not doing it yourself then? it isnt that terrible :-?

[PaulyQ]

nah man, not doing this job myself.  

Got a mechanic that rarely works on auto's doing it for me....trying to get as much info as possible to help him out.

If I had the time I would give this a crack myself, but just haven't got the time due to me being at work and it being a bit dark when I get home. Costing me £60 to get the car to the mechanics as it is, not going to risk towing the car in it's present state so have paid for a truck to transport it the 4 miles to the garage.

Level filler is just behind the cat(obviously on the gearbox), is that correct?

If the car starts to work after topping up the oil he is then going to change the filter, myself... I'll do the selector switch on saturday. I will then makes some enquiries about getting the software updated on the box to smooth it out a bit.

Ho Hum... it's a wonderful life!!

[sassanach]

check oil level then if correct connect a 0-200 psi guage to the test point on the n/s of the box just behind the bell housing(10 or 11mm af spanner)if i recall correctly you should see approx 40 psi at idle 140 psi at stall speed.  pump should operate regardless of condition of clutches etc.no pressure=knackered pump OR blocked filter.filter easy, pump =box out. let me know how you get on.

[Golfbuddy]

1st thing... went around roundabout and it went. Was getting a tad lumpy on changes as well, so am definately erring on the side of caution and thinking it's the levels.

@theBoy: It did around 10 maybe 20 yards or so with it slipping. Had to do that so I wasn't on roundabout....think that will have killed it?? It still "clunks" when I put it into gear, just doesn't go anywhere.

After reading a bit I understand it's best to top up the oil when the oil is warm.... hows that going to happen if I can't take the car for a drive to warm it up?? Would it be best to top up the oil as best as possible.... take it for a drive(assuming the gearbox isn't a goner) and then re-top up?

As for filter box etc.... any links on removal/replacing?

Cheers chaps.

Thanks Dave C for the link.... will give him a phone if new box needed.

Hi PaulyQ, Notice that you're from Hartlepool...  If you have to come to Shropshire to collect you could borrow a Canoe to come in, there's a river close by

Sorry, I thought it was funny....  really hope the top up works....  Best of Luck..DC

But, leave the monkeys alone. They all look like that around Dave's way anyhow.  

[PaulyQ]

Not looking good, not good at all!!

Have had the box drained and not a great deal of crap in the sump. Oil was black though and smelly (burnt smell according to mechanic)

Oil was topped up and box is still not connecting at all... it wants to connect but just doesn't seem to have the pressure to do it.

 Torque Converter, pump or Full box job?    I'm inclined to think the box has gone kaput with the oil that colour, or as mentioned above could be a box out and pump job.

Better to get the pump checked or get a new box?

[PaulyQ]

Found a second hand box for £200, that's a good start, I can pick it up tomorrow, the next thing is to get somebody to fit it.... especially over the next few days since it's Xmas weekend.

Don't think I'll have till January

[sassanach]

i only wish i was closer,i'd love to know what happened to the old one.£200 bit steep though!!

[PaulyQ]

£200 - steep. Personally thought it was quite reasonable(that's with everything I'll need or so I am led to believe and selector switch). That's my last option.

Have just had a look through yellow pages and found an autobox specialist not too far away.

Any bets on what it could be that is wrong?

If the oil is black was under the impression that the box was probably goosed!!

@Sassenach... you are quite possible too much of a distance away.... erm around 300 miles to be exact, would take 5 hours approx to get here.

[PaulyQ]

OK... before I go out and buy a box for £200 and then pay £300 to fit it............ is there anyway to determine what the most probable cause is. Would rather go down the route of methodical diagnosis than just forking out money.

As mentioned above... if the oil was black does that mean a new box?

It is trying to engage in both forward and reverse gears but seems to just cut short of fully engaging.... does that seem indicative of the Torque Converter?

Would ANY of this possibly be a knackered Selector Switch?

Just looking for a few answers before fully committing as I'm trying to save money, xmas and all that.


 Cheers chaps

[Kevin Wood]

I guess a fluid pressure test is the next step in the diagnosis. Either way, it's going to be a gearbox internal problem and the state of the fluid might be indicative of a major problem :-/

Kevin