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Pete1968

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« on: 14 July 2008, 10:25:29 »
...although I will say first off it is not the fault of the car.

Yesterday I decided to whip the front wheels off and take a look at the whisbones ahead of either having the camber checked or new ones put on.

With the tools out and ready the wheel nut covers were whipped of and I was confonted by a mangled mess that once were a pair of locking wheel nuts.   >:(

As the tyres are very recent I'm assuming that someone thieving git has had a go at removing them and managed to destroy the locking nuts in the process.  I'm pretty particular about this sort of thing and alwys torque them up properly whenever I take a wheel off, in addition I checked them before putting them back in last time so there is no way I did this.  The direction of the ripping of the recesses indicates that it has been done while trying to loosen them too.

So I suppose this is either going to need someone who can get them out whole - which I would love to see - or drilling and tapping back to allow for a new set to be fitted in their place.  Which I will need to sort out pretty quickly as I do not want to have a puncture and be stranded.

I haven't even looked at the back ones yet, I'm too scared right now.

Really annoyed at some of the low-life scum there is out there.
« Last Edit: 14 July 2008, 10:26:52 by Pete1968 »
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Re: Very Annoyed
« Reply #1 on: 14 July 2008, 10:31:58 »
find an old socket that's a real tight fit onto the mess that's left.  Hammer it on and you should get the old locking bolt out.  no need tiwth the drilling - tapping thing
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Re: Very Annoyed
« Reply #2 on: 14 July 2008, 10:36:09 »
There are a couple of options for removing them... Either get an impact socket which is a very tight fit and hammer it on or you can get a special tool for removing locking wheel nuts. I used to have one from my garage monkey days but haven't seen it for a while! ::) ::)

Sorry to hear that you've fallen foul of the modern day culture of "If it's not mine, I want it!" >:( >:( >:( :o :o
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Re: Very Annoyed
« Reply #3 on: 14 July 2008, 10:36:20 »
Pete - not an ideal solution but until you get the nuts sorted you could travel with an aerosol can of the goo that repairs a puncture whilst inflating the tyre. Only sposed to be a temp fix but I used a can on my old Cav and it lasted for years after that.

And I agree about the low life on the streets...custodial sentence for using a knife?? Chop off their knackers so they can't produce more of the same!
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« Reply #4 on: 14 July 2008, 10:37:27 »
Unfortunately Jonathan these are the circular type with a three-pin fitment so banging a socket on probably won't sort it.

It's a bit ironic really.  When I first saw them I thought about changing them for a different type but didn't get round to it.
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Re: Very Annoyed
« Reply #5 on: 14 July 2008, 10:43:16 »
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Unfortunately Jonathan these are the circular type with a three-pin fitment so banging a socket on probably won't sort it.

.......

The local ATS managed to remove mine after A N Other leading tyre fitting company buggered my 'key' up. They used something like these
clicky with a windy gun
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Re: Very Annoyed
« Reply #6 on: 14 July 2008, 10:43:27 »
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Unfortunately Jonathan these are the circular type with a three-pin fitment so banging a socket on probably won't sort it.

It's a bit ironic really.  When I first saw them I thought about changing them for a different type but didn't get round to it.

As long as you use an impact socket it may work... I've done them like this before! :y :y
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Re: Very Annoyed
« Reply #7 on: 14 July 2008, 10:44:01 »
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Unfortunately Jonathan these are the circular type with a three-pin fitment so banging a socket on probably won't sort it.

It's a bit ironic really.  When I first saw them I thought about changing them for a different type but didn't get round to it.

I put a brand new set of mcguard ones on her cdx 2 years ago, been on and off a few times for various reasons, went to take them off to put them on her new car...

3 came off fine, 1 disintegrated when I put the bar on :(

Still not got the rest out, a bolt with a key hole at the end, no outer.

all attempts so far have failed  >:(

never again will I use locking nuts!
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Re: Very Annoyed
« Reply #8 on: 14 July 2008, 10:46:13 »
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never again will I use locking nuts!

If you ask for locking wheel nuts at Vauxhall now, you'll get the 'cake cutter' type. So far I've not had any problems.  :-X
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Re: Very Annoyed
« Reply #9 on: 14 July 2008, 10:48:50 »
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never again will I use locking nuts!

If you ask for locking wheel nuts at Vauxhall now, you'll get the 'cake cutter' type. So far I've not had any problems.  :-X

These are the cake cutter type!  not Vauxhall though!
The bit outside the 'cake' just shattered off in 3 pieces!

I reckon windy tools to blame  >:(
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Re: Very Annoyed
« Reply #10 on: 14 July 2008, 11:16:08 »
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Re: Very Annoyed
« Reply #11 on: 14 July 2008, 11:17:29 »
Just get a wheel bolt and get it welded to your locking nut then it will come straight off not a problem. :y
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Re: Very Annoyed
« Reply #12 on: 14 July 2008, 11:18:47 »
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Sorry for the ebay link, but would something like this help.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-UNIVERSAL-GRIPPER-SOCKET-GATOR-TYPE-70mm-EXTENSION_W0QQitemZ130238328643QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item130238328643&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

HTH

Mike

A neighbour has one of those, but waiting for it to come back from loan.

My worry is the torque they can take...anyone any ideas?
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Re: Very Annoyed
« Reply #13 on: 14 July 2008, 11:21:27 »
May order one anyway, looks like it could be a useful addition to the tool box.

Not seen a socket type one before, only seen em with a built in handle.
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Re: Very Annoyed
« Reply #14 on: 14 July 2008, 11:22:23 »
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Just get a wheel bolt and get it welded to your locking nut then it will come straight off not a problem. :y

A good plan, but dont see how you can weld to a nut stuck deep in a wheel?
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