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[Marks DTM Calib]

Now if both were loose I would be worried.

Reality is that the cams dont exert to great a force on the bearings (they also only turn at half rpm). Also consider it wont get out with the cam cover on.

Bloody incompitent of whoever was in there last though so a good catch!

[sophos9]

Bloody incompitent of whoever was in there last though so a good catch!

Thats the thing, I've looked back over the service history and I have no record of the cams ever being fettled with?

[feeutfo]

i know they are only 8nm but would any harm be done by being a bit belt and braces and doing them up tighter? Say 15nm?
Cant help thinking it would not take much for it to vibrate loose at 8nm? Yes it only holds the cam but the valves aint far away,  8nm only holds the plastic cam covers. I know what your going to say, 8nm is good enough as the book says, but what harm could be done doing it up tighter as, must confess, i am a bit tempted.

[Albert1]

Is it just me who thinks this might not be such a "lucky" find?  What if it's just the first indication of what some numpty with half a spanner has been ballsing up...maybe you should go over the rest of the car with a magnifying glass.........

[sophos9]

Is it just me who thinks this might not be such a "lucky" find?  What if it's just the first indication of what some numpty with half a spanner has been ballsing up...maybe you should go over the rest of the car with a magnifying glass.........

I'm the only numpty who has looked after it for the last 3 years, previous to that it was 90k of Vauxhall numpties...

The car (in the history I have) has never had any work done on or around the cams???

[feeutfo]

so it has just come loose then? Do you have any details of previous owners that yo t could ask and see if they know of any cam work?  either some one has been working on it or its undone itself. Can i do myn up to 15 nm please Mr Mark dtm?  

[Marks DTM Calib]

so it has just come loose then? Do you have any details of previous owners that yo t could ask and see if they know of any cam work?  either some one has been working on it or its undone itself. Can i do myn up to 15 nm please Mr Mark dtm?  

I wouldn't!

10Nm max!

15Nm would probably snap them or strip the threads as they are quite fine pitch.

At the end of the day, 8Nm's works.

You have to remember that by saying we want them tighter we are making the following assumptions

1) Its not ever been worked on
2) It was origianlly tightened to 8Nm correctly
3) The scally who originaly built the engine didn't have a hang over that morning

Thing is that if some warranty work ha been carried out then it might not appear in the service history and the same goes for DIY work.

[feeutfo]

is it likely the servicing dealer would have any details of any warranty work? So we can line said Scally up against the wall?

[Marks DTM Calib]

is it likely the servicing dealer would have any details of any warranty work? So we can line said Scally up against the wall?

Lol, the scally would have been in the ellsmere port engine plant on the original build

[feeutfo]

yeah...? Will travel.
But yes i see what your saying, of course. If i take my currently well sealed cam covers off, will i need new seals on replacement or will they leak if dislodged. I would not mind an experienced eye having a dig around in there, the top end left bank sounds a bit ticky to me, from inside the car tho. It had i noisy lifter style rattle when i got it, swift oil change got rid. But i am still a a bit dubeous.
Sorry i am hijacking this thread now.

[VXL V6]

Chris, the question is: How many miles and how many oil changes has your engine had? If it was anything like mine it had 20K changes (as per -part of- schedule) for the first three years of it's life..... not good, that mean't it only had two services!

That would explain why it suffered tappet noise and the oil pressure relief valve wasn't functioning at 5bar  

The bit all the dealers ignore is that it is 20K or 1 year whichever the sooner - so should be serviced every year regardless.

[sophos9]

My V6 gets oil changes every 8-10k... The cams look like they are brand new, no noticable wear at all...

VXL V6, off topic, does how you getting on with the opelscanner advanced, does it read your electronic climate control?

[VXL V6]

Yep mines on 3 - 4K changes now!

Yep Autoscanner will read all of the systems on the Omega, it can't program them but it does have some functionality that was only to be found on a real Tech II such as exercising the HID lamp levelling motors and programming immobliser and alarm fobs and will also read live data.

The latest CAN version will do the CAN systems on later cars but apart from reading codes from NCDR head units I haven't found anything I can't read on all the Vauxhalls i've tried it on, it's also read a few codes off SAAB's as well. Only downside is the current price.

[sophos9]

Nice one. I got an "My Naff Code Reader" which does lots of stuff but fails to read the ECC ECU, which is a real pain. Do you mind if I ask how much it cost and where you got it from?

Interface is much nicer than the "My Naff Code Reader". How do you get updates?

Thanks

[VXL V6]

Interface is very easy to use, I got mine from UKOBD about 18 months ago but the now current CAN model has replaced it and upped the price, I will have to check what I paid for it when I get home but owning a 3.2 with the PreCat problem it has definately paid for itself.

When you receive the device you just register the serial number on the autoscanner site and you will be notified whenever an update is available to download. Currently the updates are about once every three months and you get them for as long as you have the device. They also have a forum where you can post queries and ask about adding extra functionality (I asked about the headlamp levelling exercising and it was released about two weeks later!).

If you want to know more about the CAN version then I suggest contacting Iggy21UK on here as he has one.