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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #15 on: 03 February 2009, 21:54:33 »

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faster to remove inlet - I changed my 6 in 50 mins one Friday lunchtime in the rain

That's at least twice as fast as normal humans?

You will need nailbar to get manifold off/on.
Get gaskets too, mine were 50/50 cement.
I used hylomar blue, all I had. 1hr 50, I thought I did OK.
& Yes I had a telescopic  magnet thingy.
Perfect now in the crappy weather even with poor battery & ebay plugs 20+p&p.
Nah, it simply lifts off, no hassle. Its just a knack
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #16 on: 03 February 2009, 22:02:18 »

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I have just replaced the glowplugs on mine as I was having starting problems. If the car eventually started then she was lumpy for a bit with clouds of smoke. However, once warm she would start on the button.
Now I have absolutely no problem starting. I bought the ones off of ebay for £20 before I read posts about reliability. However, so far they are fine.
I found fitting these a pig despite what other people said. If you do it yourself make sure you obtain gaskets for the inlet manifold before you start. Do it on a warm day as it is very fiddly. ;)

For defo !  Thought sealant would do it but oily gunge bubbling around the joints of mine now. It's very slight so gonna leave it til the better weather. Even tho I have the keys to my mates garage with lifts, pit, tools etc...it's still to bloody cold there to be curing only mildly itrratating issues.
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #17 on: 22 April 2009, 09:19:32 »

What is paperclipping??? Ive got the same problem but mine wont start at all this morning. The kids are happy as they cant get to school! It was leaking diesel through the pipes on top and have had them changed. Not sure after reading about changing glow plugs Im able to do that as I cnt find a basic guide on here with pics :-[
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #18 on: 22 April 2009, 09:23:25 »

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What is paperclipping??? Ive got the same problem but mine wont start at all this morning. The kids are happy as they cant get to school! It was leaking diesel through the pipes on top and have had them changed. Not sure after reading about changing glow plugs Im able to do that as I cnt find a basic guide on here with pics :-[

Look here ....
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152601768 Not sure you can do it on yours though  :(
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #19 on: 22 April 2009, 10:25:25 »

Have done the test and it worked ;D
code   49      Glow Device General Error  &
64      Fuel Quantity Control Out of Range

So at least I now know it is the glow plugs not sure about the other code will look into that later. But he pipes ??? on top that I thought the garage had changed all of them but after looking only 3 done and back 2 soaked in diesel >:(

As for glow plugs not even sure what they look like or where they are? off to get some and get a haynes manual :D
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #20 on: 22 April 2009, 12:03:07 »

Ahhhhhh! the dreaded 64, can mean a fault associated with the injection pump!

Right, before going further, change the glow-plugs and all leak-off pipes. See what happens, as changing these might effect a cure.
You can get a length of the piping from reputable motor factors cheap enough, and fit Beru or NGK glow-plugs.
Don't use cheapo plugs whatever.

Don't get a Haynes manual - there's no information on the diesels in it.
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #21 on: 22 April 2009, 12:44:27 »

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One of the members was able to do this job without removing the inlet manifold, God knows how! :o
I think that might have been me! It was the first job on my Omega a couple of years ago and it took about 2 hours - as suggested, just take the manifold off. My knuckles have only just healed up  :(
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #22 on: 22 April 2009, 12:44:54 »

Have got back with 5 NGK glow plugs, have to go back later for no 6. I already have haynes manual for my petrol2.5 estate so didnt bother looking, just as well if there isnt one! Where do I find step my step guides on the diesel engine, Im not 100% where the glow plugs even are. Under here????My previous posts have warned you Im new to this ;D ;D do I need to get a new gasket too?


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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #23 on: 22 April 2009, 15:23:49 »

Yep, inlet manifold to come off, then you'll see the plugs screwed into the head.
NGK plugs should be okay - I've had no problems with them.
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #24 on: 22 April 2009, 15:39:38 »

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Where do I find step my step guides on the diesel engine
http://images.omegaowners.com/documents/25TD/M51D25_Engine.pdf - It's on the Omega forum, but it's about BMW engines fitted to Range Rovers!  ;D   Same engine though.  Not sure if there's any "How To's", but that should tell you everything you could ever want to know about your engine, and then some.
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #25 on: 22 April 2009, 16:39:36 »

Page 2 of the guide shows where the Glow Plugs (Item 19) are located - you will then realise why they are such a pain in the backside to access!
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #26 on: 22 April 2009, 19:34:45 »

After your help and advice and looking back at a few old posting Ive done it. 6 out and 5 in, cant wait until tomorrow to get no 6 in :D  Was no problem at all just kept running in and out of the house to check I was doing it right, maybe my little girly hands made it easier ;D ;D ;D
Glad I never paid the £400 I was quoted for that! The most annoying thing was one  of the dogs barking and when I banged on the window I put my hand through it >:( Fingers crossed when it goes back together tomorrow it starts :)
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #27 on: 22 April 2009, 19:52:27 »

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After your help and advice and looking back at a few old posting Ive done it. 6 out and 5 in, cant wait until tomorrow to get no 6 in :D  Was no problem at all just kept running in and out of the house to check I was doing it right, maybe my little girly hands made it easier ;D ;D ;D
Glad I never paid the £400 I was quoted for that! The most annoying thing was one  of the dogs barking and when I banged on the window I put my hand through it >:( Fingers crossed when it goes back together tomorrow it starts :)

nice one mate, easy when you know how!!!! :y

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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #28 on: 22 April 2009, 19:52:41 »

Well done ali - just keep at it!
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #29 on: 22 April 2009, 22:55:26 »

well done ali :y
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