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[Entwood]

yeah, it was fitted on 7th January 2008

2 years old then, so quite possible its failed. I'd get a GM one in there 

dont batterys come with 5years warranty, just looked at mine and it say 10years but standard is 5, one in caravan 25years. so can have a free test.

B***ll*cks !!!!   I know of no leisure battery with a 25 year warranty ... and any company that gave one woukld be out of business very quickly !!!

Unless you have fitted a HOPPECKE milk float one !!!  In which case it is NOT a caravan battery

Even Elecsol only give 5 years and they are 'kin expensive !!

[rustym95]

yeah, it was fitted on 7th January 2008

2 years old then, so quite possible its failed. I'd get a GM one in there 

dont batterys come with 5years warranty, just looked at mine and it say 10years but standard is 5, one in caravan 25years. so can have a free test.

B***ll*cks !!!!   I know of no leisure battery with a 25 year warranty ... and any company that gave one woukld be out of business very quickly !!!

Unless you have fitted a HOPPECKE milk float one !!!  In which case it is NOT a caravan battery

its not a leisure battery idiot, did i say it was.

[Wayne]

i phoned the garage earlier, they are happy to replace the battery, will do a drop test on it, as i said in an earlier thread a few months back,  i fully charged the damn battery for 36 hours about 6 - 7 weeks ago, car has been fine and started everytime, left it for 8 days and it wont start, no internal lights are on in the car as i checked,  i have to press the "running man" button on my car before i lock the doors, otherwise alarm will go off,  is this causing it do you think?

[Entwood]

Rusty ... I have avoided a slanging match with you over many of your posts, and have no wish to enter one now.

However, if you continue to post rubbish, and then to call me an idiot there will be big trouble.

Do I make myself clear ?

Either post sensible, readable help for members, or shut up.

[rustym95]

Rusty ... I have avoided a slanging match with you over many of your posts, and have no wish to enter one now.

However, if you continue to post rubbish, and then to call me an idiot there will be big trouble.

Do I make myself clear ?

Either post sensible, readable help for members, or shut up.

well you stop reading inbetween the lines if I said 25years its 25years I dont buy cheap batterys and never said it was a leisure battery you thought and swearing at me dont help your problems.

[Wayne]

Entwood, i don't know you and thank you for your posts, please dont come on here making me sound like an idiot, "logical" etc etc
im not faffing round with all that crap,
i`m an average joe motorist who doesnt know break all about testers, meters etc etc etc
i wanna know WHY the battery is losing charge and spending even MORE time without a car charging and decharging the battery is gonna take bleeding days, it has to be something simple...
i`m not a bloody expert like you, hence i`m taking the battery back to where i bought it

[tunnie]

25 year old battery?  - I am with Entwood on that one, just rubbish. You are saying a battery you fitted in 1984 is still going? 

There is no way a Caravan battery will last that long, no way.

Back on subject, you really need to get a volt meter across it, post up the readings with:

engine off & ignition off
engine running but at idle
engine at 3k rpm

It could be your battery is fine, but the alternator is not giving enough jucie, or poor connetions from the alternator to the battery. I had problems for ages, until i discovered how poor the connection was to the positive terminal from the alternator. It was cut off and replaced, and has been fine ever since

[Entwood]

Entwood, i don't know you and thank you for your posts, please dont come on here making me sound like an idiot, "logical" etc etc
im not faffing round with all that crap,
i`m an average joe motorist who doesnt know break all about testers, meters etc etc etc
i wanna know WHY the battery is losing charge and spending even MORE time without a car charging and decharging the battery is gonna take bleeding days, it has to be something simple...
i`m not a bloody expert like you, hence i`m taking the battery back to where i bought it

I'm not trying to make you look an idiot (tonights favourite word ?? ) but you started off with the supposition that "something" was draining the battery and asked "what" ... now you think it's the battery itself ...

Until you find out which it is you will be going around in circles.  There is no "quick internet answer" to this .. it is your car and either you, or a garage will sort it .. we can't at long range .. we can only give you the information you need to do the investigation.

The battery lasted weeks since the last charge then suddenly died after not being used for a while.. so it could be

1) battery doesn't hold a charge for a long period but does for a short period.

2) something is still on and drains the battery.

3) alternator is only partially charging battery so when you leave it standing it is not "fully charged"

Each of those possibilities needs to be looked at in turn, if you don't want to do the work .. why ask for help .. just take it to the garage and pay someone

You can ask as many questions as you like, and get as many suggestions as you want .. but not a single one will be the answer if you don't some of the work.

Unfortunately there is no magic solution.

[Wayne]

i asked for help to see if ANYONE else has had the same problem as me, then once i knew EXACTLY what it was, i could have then sorted it

and YES i will pay someone, someone i trust
the Alternator has been tested while running, this was without everything turnt on, and then with all the gadgets switched on,  readings were normal with a volt meter...  i had 2 mechanics look at it at the same time.... once who owns a garage in Wheatley, near where i live

when i go to National Tyres tomorrow, i will ask them to check condition of connections to the alternator and battery, they look in Mint condition to my eye....
wouldn't a paperclip show any problems?
if i disconnect the power sounder, that might cure it

[The Red Baron]

doubt a paperclip will reveal anything at all, maybe power sounder, they usually go up in smoke fist though.
sounds like something is draining it as said earlier, its a case of finding out what. process of elimination imafraid.
edit, a mate of mine had a battery drain prob, disconnected the horn next to the power sounder & that cured it, however it was an overnight drain to flat!.

[rustym95]

25 year old battery?  - I am with Entwood on that one, just rubbish. You are saying a battery you fitted in 1984 is still going? 

There is no way a Caravan battery will last that long, no way.

Back on subject, you really need to get a volt meter across it, post up the readings with:

engine off & ignition off
engine running but at idle
engine at 3k rpm

It could be your battery is fine, but the alternator is not giving enough jucie, or poor connetions from the alternator to the battery. I had problems for ages, until i discovered how poor the connection was to the positive terminal from the alternator. It was cut off and replaced, and has been fine ever since

25 year warranty its only a year old.

[Andy H]

i fully charged the damn battery for 36 hours about 6 - 7 weeks ago

What type of charger did you use?

Is it one of the modern 'battery conditioner' ones that is designed to be left connected for long periods?

If it was one of the old tin boxes it is possible that the battery was overcharged which could distort the plates and cause it to self discharge.

[Wayne]

yeah, it was one of them chargers where you can have the QUICK charge option or the FULL charge, the chargers about 2 years old.... i`m gonna try a booster pack on my car later, but like last time, i bet it wont do anything as its VERY flat, i just want to get it down to National Tyres and they can inspect it, when i return home with the new battery, i will try the fuses test

[Wayne]

Just come back from National Tyres and they are happy to change the battery for me, but couldn't fit me in as they were snowed under... so will be taking it there on 2nd January 

i also wanted to ask about the battery isolator switch i`m going to get for my car...
this is a MUST for me i reckons, wont do any harm
but..... i have noticed that when you take the battery terminals off the battery and then reconnect them, the bloody alarm goes off correct?
its ear piercing!!! 
but i guess if i disconnect the powersounder, this wont happen??

when i have the isolator switch fitted, will the alarm go off each time i want to turn the battery on and go out in the car?
wasn't sure if it would act like when you remove both cables from the battery terminals?
if i decide to go out in my car late at night, dont want the neighbours screaming at me when i wake the whole close up 

meanwhile, i want to do a test and remove one of the terminals, or maybe both, leave my car for a week or more, then reconnect them, if my car starts then we DEFINITELY know that somethings draining it and its not just cold weather or lack of use..

but the above is a waste of time after the isolator is fitted

what do you guys think to all that?

[Elite Pete]

yeah, it was fitted on 7th January 2008

2 years old then, so quite possible its failed. I'd get a GM one in there 

dont batterys come with 5years warranty, just looked at mine and it say 10years but standard is 5, one in caravan 25years. so can have a free test.

Thats brilliant, can you tell me the make and where you got it?