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Re: Noisy tyres
« Reply #30 on: 27 January 2010, 17:28:10 »

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I fully agree  mismatched tyres are not my cup of tea but they were on the car when I bought it .I think that I will buy a conti to match the other front and dump the Wanli.

If its worn try matching with a part worn-you'll get the same pattern, performance etc
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Re: Noisy tyres
« Reply #31 on: 27 January 2010, 18:17:13 »

Just fitted 2, 255/35/19 Dunlop sport Maxx to the back of my elite, well happy with grip and noise, so I should be at £210 a corner....
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Re: Noisy tyres
« Reply #32 on: 27 January 2010, 18:41:25 »

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Just fitted 2, 255/35/19 Dunlop sport Maxx to the back of my elite, well happy with grip and noise, so I should be at £210 a corner....

 :o :o :oAll four of mine were £220 fitted, balanced etc

I could have had Contis for £357.50 for 4 delivered off ebay delivered and then £10 each to fit/balance/dispose-under £400 all in  :o
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Re: Noisy tyres
« Reply #33 on: 27 January 2010, 19:29:32 »

experience says : I'm not too rich to buy cheap.. (meaning twice!!) so

one of the three:
bridgestone potenza or goodyear eagle f1 or continental .. michelins wear out very quickly so cost become higher than the paid..
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Re: Noisy tyres
« Reply #34 on: 27 January 2010, 20:18:53 »

i worked fitting tyres for a short while whilst running a small garage,the overall opinion was that michelins certainly did the big mileage and were definitely not a tyre that wore out quickly.
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Re: Noisy tyres
« Reply #35 on: 27 January 2010, 20:23:11 »

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i worked fitting tyres for a short while whilst running a small garage,the overall opinion was that michelins certainly did the big mileage and were definitely not a tyre that wore out quickly.

wear out doesnt necessarily mean 0 mm thread depth.. the softer part of the thread wears out quickly and the tire start to skate..but the others still continue to grip..
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« Reply #36 on: 27 January 2010, 20:45:38 »

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i worked fitting tyres for a short while whilst running a small garage,the overall opinion was that michelins certainly did the big mileage and were definitely not a tyre that wore out quickly.

wear out doesnt necessarily mean 0 mm thread depth.. the softer part of the thread wears out quickly and the tire start to skate..but the others still continue to grip..

Cems right about some tyres being useless at half worn, but I always found Michelins to wear (out) longest  :-/
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Re: Noisy tyres
« Reply #37 on: 27 January 2010, 20:51:35 »

interesting point but i am still sold on michelins doing big mileage,skating with less tread comparable to the other makes may well have a scientific explanation,would need more info to accept your hypothesis
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Re: Noisy tyres
« Reply #38 on: 27 January 2010, 21:03:11 »

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interesting point but i am still sold on michelins doing big mileage,skating with less tread comparable to the other makes may well have a scientific explanation,would need more info to accept your hypothesis

I rate tyres as the most important thing on the car, but am eating my words at present, due to needing to save a few quid in the short term due to all the other work:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1264599938/new

I am testing the theory that cheaper tyres used from new to 5mm wear compare well to better tyres used until 2mm.
So far, seems ok but twitchy on damp roads  :-/

I'm on (ebay has them) Triangle Talon Sport TR918s-you can get 4 fitted in Macclesfield for £167.99 for 4  ;D
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Re: Noisy tyres
« Reply #39 on: 27 January 2010, 21:08:31 »

My personal tyre of choice is Goodyear F1's.  Michelins, whilst lasting for ever, have the payoff in that they are quite hard and thus have, to my experience, give lesser grip.  I can and do ask a fair bit out of my car, corner wise, in all weathers so want something that delivers.

Wanli ditchfinders (and similar) are, I feel, aptly named but if you financially need to spend the least cash to keep your car going, then you must thereafter adapt your driving style accordingly....

Its the old old story - you get what you pay for and buy cheap/pay dear.......  :y
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Re: Noisy tyres
« Reply #40 on: 27 January 2010, 21:14:19 »

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My personal tyre of choice is Goodyear F1's.  Michelins, whilst lasting for ever, have the payoff in that they are quite hard and thus have, to my experience, give lesser grip.  I can and do ask a fair bit out of my car, corner wise, in all weathers so want something that delivers.

Wanli ditchfinders (and similar) are, I feel, aptly named but if you financially need to spend the least cash to keep your car going, then you must thereafter adapt your driving style accordingly....

Its the old old story - you get what you pay for and buy cheap/pay dear.......  :y

Being optimistic about it, I am saving a fortune on further skid pan training courses  ;D ;D
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Re: Noisy tyres
« Reply #41 on: 27 January 2010, 22:37:19 »



as it can be seen a cheapish tire with 8 mm thread depth can stop much better than a expensive 2 mm thread depth tire..

however for sideway Gs  the thread pattern , wall stiffness and tire softness complicates the scenario but still I think 8 mm not comparable with a 2-3 mm thread depth..

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Re: Noisy tyres
« Reply #42 on: 27 January 2010, 22:48:07 »

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as it can be seen a cheapish tire with 8 mm thread depth can stop much better than a expensive 2 mm thread depth tire..

however for sideway Gs  the thread pattern , wall stiffness and tire softness complicates the scenario but still I think 8 mm not comparable with a 2-3 mm thread depth..


I don't think it is as simple as that.....maybe in wet condtions, but dry???

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Re: Noisy tyres
« Reply #43 on: 27 January 2010, 23:31:16 »

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as it can be seen a cheapish tire with 8 mm thread depth can stop much better than a expensive 2 mm thread depth tire..

however for sideway Gs  the thread pattern , wall stiffness and tire softness complicates the scenario but still I think 8 mm not comparable with a 2-3 mm thread depth..


I see that graph as the same tyre across the range of tread depths.  Anything else is simply 'dangle berries', to be honest.  A hard as nails plastic tyre with full depth versus an almost done super soft sticky tyre on the same surface at the same speed would be a more realistic comparison.  And I would not be surprised if the sticky tyre came out better, to be honest.....
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Re: Noisy tyres
« Reply #44 on: 27 January 2010, 23:44:36 »

in dry , for stopping distance thread depth is effective if and only if, the road surface is covered with gravels.. but on a nearly perfect flat surfaced asphalt like autobahns thread depth has no meaning..
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