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Re: Drive Belt Tensioner Failure!
« Reply #15 on: 23 March 2010, 20:07:56 »

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Some good info here.

Just wondering; anyone know if the pulley is the same on a 4-pot?

Could be worth acquiring a scrappie pulley and re-bearing-ing it to have as a spare??

If worried for the sake of £25 I'd just buy another !!!

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Re: Drive Belt Tensioner Failure!
« Reply #16 on: 23 March 2010, 20:13:37 »

 ;D You calling me tight?

As it happens, I have a brand new 6203-2RS bearing kicking about, so if it is the same pulley/bearing on a 4-pot it would be an 'almost free' exercise, assuming the 2nd-hand pulley could be had for £not-a-lot.
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Re: Drive Belt Tensioner Failure!
« Reply #17 on: 23 March 2010, 20:47:13 »

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;D You calling me tight?

As it happens, I have a brand new 6203-2RS bearing kicking about, so if it is the same pulley/bearing on a 4-pot it would be an 'almost free' exercise, assuming the 2nd-hand pulley could be had for £not-a-lot.
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yep - buy a new tensioner pulley for £24  :y
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Re: Drive Belt Tensioner Failure!
« Reply #18 on: 23 March 2010, 22:05:15 »

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Some good info here.

Just wondering; anyone know if the pulley is the same on a 4-pot?

Could be worth acquiring a scrappie pulley and re-bearing-ing it to have as a spare??

The pulley on the 4 pot is different.

In the case of the 2/3 engine, the pulley is metal and secured around the bearing with 3 rivets....these can be drilled out and the bearing replaced and then suitable bolts with nylocks used to re-assemble the 2 halves
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Re: Drive Belt Tensioner Failure!
« Reply #19 on: 31 March 2010, 15:29:24 »

Right, after returning from a few days away, the lads in my local workshop who were going to do the job can't as the belt that I had is too short! My local stealer hadn't got one so I ordered one but today I was near another stealership so I called in on the off chance that they had one. They had but guess what, I offer it up to the old one and it's too short :'( How hard can it be to get a f**king fan belt >:( Does anybody know what part number a fan belt/drive belt is for a 3.0 Elite '95? The one they've given me is 93181720
Please save me from tearing out what little hair I have left!!

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Re: Drive Belt Tensioner Failure!
« Reply #20 on: 31 March 2010, 15:39:40 »

93181720 is the correct part......what year is the engine?
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Re: Drive Belt Tensioner Failure!
« Reply #21 on: 31 March 2010, 16:41:17 »

Marks DTM,

'95 3.0 Interestingly, I've rung my local dealer and they've come up with the same part no.!

The existing belt is 2260mm which is what that 93181720 part number says it is but when you look on the new belt it says 2020mm!!! Just had a long conversation with the local dealer who has looked at their new belt, which has the correct part number but again has 2020 written on it.

Like I said, how hard is it to get a flippin' fan belt? I wish I'd gone to the local motor factors now :(

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Re: Drive Belt Tensioner Failure!
« Reply #22 on: 31 March 2010, 16:49:56 »

perhaps gm have a wrongly labeled batch. A gates rep once told us you can normally get away with a belt 10mm bigger or smaller in most cases as adjusters will compensate. dont know if its right but ive got out of trouble a few times with this. as yoy know the size as you do go to a factors and get the same size belt.
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Re: Drive Belt Tensioner Failure!
« Reply #23 on: 31 March 2010, 16:58:36 »

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as yoy know the size as you do go to a factors and get the same size belt

I'm on my way! This is ridiculous, the car's laid up for want of something so stupid...

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Re: Drive Belt Tensioner Failure!
« Reply #24 on: 31 March 2010, 17:44:42 »

Got one, £12  :D

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Re: Drive Belt Tensioner Failure!
« Reply #25 on: 31 March 2010, 17:55:34 »

Ok, this is an easy one.

I suspect you have the early engine which has the additional pulley to the right of the crank pulley as per the lower one of the 3 pics below


You need to bypass it as per the centre pic:

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Re: Drive Belt Tensioner Failure!
« Reply #26 on: 31 March 2010, 18:27:21 »

Mark,

So a; how come the dealer couldn't tell me this and b; why did that part number say that it was a 2260 mm belt as opposed to the 2020mm belt that it really is!

Ay curramba! I just want a running Omega :'(

Humpy

PS I'm not doubting what you say mate, it's just so frustrating!
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Re: Drive Belt Tensioner Failure!
« Reply #27 on: 31 March 2010, 18:29:04 »

A) Because they probably forgot, the engine with the extra idler was discontinued in 1995

B) Was it your old belt that said 2260....as the correct later belt (which is retrofitted) is 2200

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Re: Drive Belt Tensioner Failure!
« Reply #28 on: 31 March 2010, 18:39:43 »

I should add that Vx have not supplied the longer belt for about 15 years.....so if it was a GM one then its done BLOODY well
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Re: Drive Belt Tensioner Failure!
« Reply #29 on: 31 March 2010, 22:07:39 »

Mark,

Yes the old belt was 2260 so it may be the original which is impressive!!

Humpy

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