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Re: 3.2 cams in 2.6????
« Reply #15 on: 25 September 2010, 05:21:21 »

...and I got talked out of having the cams changed by my indep when I was having my belt done a few weeks ago! "Wast of time"to coin a phrase!

Interesting about the divider. 'scuse my ignorance but is this something that could be easily done on its own by a slightly competent diy'er? Any benefits without the cams?
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Re: 3.2 cams in 2.6????
« Reply #16 on: 25 September 2010, 13:47:31 »

the inlet divider is just a direct replacement for the old metal item, this one is made of plastic and a lot lighter. there are also mild heat transfer benefits. it's an easy enough job, inlet manifold and injector rail off and hey presto, there you are, although im not sure its worth doing the work specifically to replace the divider if you're not doing other related work such as camshaft replacement at the same time.

a competent DIYer with a steady hand and a dremel could port the holes in the head to match the divider. careful not to score where you shouldnt though, or leave any metal filings in the head itself  :o

easiest way to see where to enlarge is to use a felt tip or similar and colour in the visible part of the openings in the head through the inlet divider. you can ensure an accurate match then  :y
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« Reply #17 on: 26 September 2010, 10:45:22 »

can i ask if anyone has any sollid proof that putting 3.0/3.2 cams in a 2.6 adds to bhp/lbs.

really looking into changing the cams myself after reading this  :y
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Re: 3.2 cams in 2.6????
« Reply #18 on: 26 September 2010, 12:26:48 »

it absolutely works on the 2.5/3.0 swap so i'm guessing the same can be said of the 2.6/3.2? i'm sure someone will be along to confirm soon enough  :y
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Re: 3.2 cams in 2.6????
« Reply #19 on: 26 September 2010, 18:20:44 »

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can i ask if anyone has any sollid proof that putting 3.0/3.2 cams in a 2.6 adds to bhp/lbs.

really looking into changing the cams myself after reading this  :y


Mike Dundee 195bhp

Mine goes better than standard as well - near 3.0 performance
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Re: 3.2 cams in 2.6????
« Reply #20 on: 26 September 2010, 18:35:13 »

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can i ask if anyone has any sollid proof that putting 3.0/3.2 cams in a 2.6 adds to bhp/lbs.

really looking into changing the cams myself after reading this  :y

Yes, it really works.
Along with other stuff done at same time,my 2.5 was recorded at 215bhp (Autobahnstormers RR meet Aug '08).
That's at the wheels as it's an auto.

Ask Mike Dundee about our trip on the M11 last year.

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« Reply #21 on: 26 September 2010, 18:42:30 »

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can i ask if anyone has any sollid proof that putting 3.0/3.2 cams in a 2.6 adds to bhp/lbs.

really looking into changing the cams myself after reading this  :y

Yes, it really works.
Along with other stuff done at same time,my 2.5 was recorded at 215bhp (Autobahnstormers RR meet Aug '08).
That's at the wheels as it's an auto.

Ask Mike Dundee about our trip on the M11 last year.

Matthew

Woha! Factoring in 20-25% transmission losses you then have somthing like 260+bhp? What else have you done to it?  :-?
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Re: 3.2 cams in 2.6????
« Reply #22 on: 26 September 2010, 21:40:07 »

thanks for your replies, it will go on the list...

i need a cam belt change so will kill two birds with one stone once i obtain all the parts.

i am also planning to swap the diff  to a 4.22 so that'll aid 0-60 times, seen as though the limit in this country is 70mph (and i wouldn't dream off exceeding it)

cheers guys
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Re: 3.2 cams in 2.6????
« Reply #23 on: 27 September 2010, 01:09:50 »

Well after reading all your replies i think it's worth a try so i'll give it a go and see what happens. :)
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Re: 3.2 cams in 2.6????
« Reply #24 on: 27 September 2010, 01:32:14 »

Anyone had any problems insuring their car after telling them it has a modified engine?
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Re: 3.2 cams in 2.6????
« Reply #25 on: 27 September 2010, 10:08:44 »

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Anyone had any problems insuring their car after telling them it has a modified engine?

If you're trying with Direct Line or someone off the high street then you'll almost certainly have problems unless it's very basic mods..

With someone like Adrian Flux, Sky Insurance et al, nope, never had a problem - granted sometimes it cost me a fair packet, but never a problem.
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Re: 3.2 cams in 2.6????
« Reply #26 on: 27 September 2010, 15:27:47 »

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Woha! Factoring in 20-25% transmission losses you then have somthing like 260+bhp? What else have you done to it?  :-?

More likely the rolling road operator "corrected" the reading to allow for the losses. A 2.5 would need serious work to make 260 BHP.

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« Reply #27 on: 27 September 2010, 20:25:42 »

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Woha! Factoring in 20-25% transmission losses you then have somthing like 260+bhp? What else have you done to it?  :-?

More likely the rolling road operator "corrected" the reading to allow for the losses. A 2.5 would need serious work to make 260 BHP.

Kevin

You're missing my original post Kevin - It's 215bhp - I assume i260 is estimating the difference for a manual box (by what method I don't know- you'll have to ask him yourself) ;)
I'm more inclined to think I'd get 220-230 with a manual box and a bit more work(the 'heads I'd have thought?).
I had heard that the holy grail for N/A engines is a ton per litre so perhaps 250 bhp is achievable? :-?
2Woody will be doing the box conversion whenever I have enough beer tokens (not looking likely just yet but I still have the dream!). ::)

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« Reply #28 on: 27 September 2010, 20:29:34 »

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You're missing my original post Kevin - It's 215bhp

Yep. I know. ;) I was just saying that's likely to be a flywheel measurement already, so adding 25% is not required.

Not a bad effort for a 2.5 at all.

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Re: 3.2 cams in 2.6????
« Reply #29 on: 27 September 2010, 20:54:51 »

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can i ask if anyone has any sollid proof that putting 3.0/3.2 cams in a 2.6 adds to bhp/lbs.

really looking into changing the cams myself after reading this  :y

Yes, it really works.
Along with other stuff done at same time,my 2.5 was recorded at 215bhp (Autobahnstormers RR meet Aug '08).
That's at the wheels as it's an auto.

Ask Mike Dundee about our trip on the M11 last year.

Matthew

Is it quicker than Mikes 2.6 then!
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