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Re: Urgent help needed! Won't start
« Reply #15 on: 24 October 2010, 11:20:42 »

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I don't have access to a reader unfortunatly, is there anything else I can try to help diagnose it?
Keep trying and pedal tricking, it might start as they sometimes do, although mine just failed, no warning, no code other than erroneous ones....until cleared. :-/

Symptoms are classic crank sensor IMO. But really want to see the code before buying one I suppose....

Don't know how else to proceed now... :(
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Re: Urgent help needed! Won't start
« Reply #16 on: 24 October 2010, 11:30:07 »

If only you were closer, I have a brand new GMsensor in my boot. :(
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Re: Urgent help needed! Won't start
« Reply #17 on: 24 October 2010, 11:38:28 »

I'll go out and try again soon, just worried in case it was the cam belt and trying to start would make things worse, but knowones mentioned that so I assume it's unlikely it's that.

I know andy, I just seem to be to far from anyone on forum that could help.

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« Reply #18 on: 24 October 2010, 11:41:44 »

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Re: Urgent help needed! Won't start
« Reply #19 on: 24 October 2010, 12:01:44 »

Thanks guys hope it is just a sensor and nothing more serious. Appreciate all your help and suggestions. I know there's not much else you can do online. I have a mechanic coming to look at it tomorrow evening so hopefully he will be able to diagnose it then.

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Re: Urgent help needed! Won't start
« Reply #20 on: 24 October 2010, 13:48:43 »

Apparently its the crank sensor lead that breaks down, due to its proximity to hot stuff.

You could try locating the connector for it which is under the scuttle, then following the lead as far as you can giving a bit of manipulation as you go.

When mine failed to start 2 months ago and then again a week or so ago, this disturbing of the wire got it started. I still changed it, and so far no more problems.

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Re: Urgent help needed! Won't start
« Reply #21 on: 24 October 2010, 13:58:02 »

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and went to start it last night and it won't start. All I hear is the starter, engine is not attempting to start at all. ....


Just had another thought .... I know I know!  ::)
How was it used the last time it started? When cars are started to just move a couple of feet, to allow another car of ther drive etc, and then switched off, you can easily end up with a flooded engine.
Try starting with wide open throttle.  :-/
Did that just last week. Started after turning over for a min or two
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Re: Urgent help needed! Won't start
« Reply #22 on: 24 October 2010, 15:03:28 »

The V6 had EXACTLY the same problem / symptoms. The helpful chaps on here suggested it, wasnt sure it could be that simple. But crawled around under a scrapper, got a replacement, and bob's your etc, it was the crank sensor!

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Re: Urgent help needed! Won't start
« Reply #23 on: 24 October 2010, 17:13:49 »

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.... but knowones mentioned that so I assume it's unlikely it's that.

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I did think of that, but I think you'd have had some metal to metal clanking noises to go with it. I'm not sure whether you can see any cams though the oil filler cap. They'd be stationary when the engine was turning over if the cam belt had broke.
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Re: Urgent help needed! Won't start
« Reply #24 on: 24 October 2010, 17:40:38 »

Thanks guys, will keep you posted, I'm just lucky in a way as we have just purchased a yaris 1.3 SR for my partner as she passed her test a week ago so I will be able to use that to get to work in. Otherwise I would of been stuffed.

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« Reply #25 on: 25 October 2010, 15:56:20 »

Ok guys, good news. Back up and running. After around 4 minutes of cranking she spluttered into life. He rekons it was the hydraulic tappets, happens sometimes apparently and shouldn't happen again hopefully. Going in for full service on Thursday. Fingers crossed it was a one off.
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Re: Urgent help needed! Won't start
« Reply #26 on: 26 October 2010, 07:51:49 »

Well she started perfect this morning, still got my fingers crossed it was a one off.

Any comments as to if you guys think, hydraulic tappets is a good diagnosis? and if it is likely to happen again?

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« Reply #27 on: 26 October 2010, 08:47:20 »

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Well she started perfect this morning, still got my fingers crossed it was a one off.

Any comments as to if you guys think, hydraulic tappets is a good diagnosis? and if it is likely to happen again?

Rich
Sounds like 'dangle berries' to me, will happen again, nothings changed, except it's started this time.

Did he clear the codes? Please say yes...
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Re: Urgent help needed! Won't start
« Reply #28 on: 26 October 2010, 09:03:44 »

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Any comments as to if you guys think, hydraulic tappets is a good diagnosis? and if it is likely to happen again?

Rich

I agree with Chris  :o  ;) complete 'dangle berries'. I'm still with my theory that it was started & turned back off when still 'on choke'.
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Re: Urgent help needed! Won't start
« Reply #29 on: 26 October 2010, 10:18:18 »

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Ok guys, good news. Back up and running. After around 4 minutes of cranking she spluttered into life. He rekons it was the hydraulic tappets, happens sometimes apparently and shouldn't happen again hopefully. Going in for full service on Thursday. Fingers crossed it was a one off.








Your 'Mechanic' should change jobs and sell pork pies instead of ripping people off telling them! ::)
As the other Guys have said, (and they are talking from real experience here) change your Crank Sensor before it leaves you possibly stranded! ;) :y
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