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Author Topic: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??  (Read 5481 times)

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Martin_1962

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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #30 on: 26 July 2011, 21:07:19 »

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manual is for people who like to Drive.

auto is for people who have no interest in driving


I disagree

Autos can be fun and are better in traffic
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #31 on: 26 July 2011, 21:58:28 »

Why is it that some folks think "driving" involves using both feet and only having one hand on the steering wheel half the time ??

Auto .. select 2, and sport mode ... then you can play in the "wiggly bits" at speeds of up to 80 mph with ease .. and if you need more than 80 then I don't class it as "wiggly" ...  :)

"Driving" is being in the right position on the road (correct lines) with the right amount of traction (accelerator OR brake) not about waving your left hand around attached to a stick.

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« Last Edit: 26 July 2011, 22:00:50 by entwood »
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #32 on: 26 July 2011, 22:26:37 »

I used my auto like a manual for long years..

and I can say even if you use 1, 2, 3 mode it hesitates for some fraction of second.. and it never pulls like a manual.. until 80.. (too late opponent gone ;D)

using auto is more like 2,3,4,5 where on a manual its like 1,2,3,4,5 ..

compare this auto

1 gear until 90 km/hr where as I use 1 until 50 and second 100 km/hr.. ratios are not even close.. :-/

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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #33 on: 27 July 2011, 12:16:35 »

I done 15K since conversion.
olny plroblem is , code p1700 that what keep car with spanner on dash.

I left auto box ecu plug in, just  done 2 bridge on gear selector socket so my criuse control work

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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #34 on: 27 July 2011, 12:21:17 »

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I done 15K since conversion.
olny plroblem is , code p1700 that what keep car with spanner on dash.

I left auto box ecu plug in, just  done 2 bridge on gear selector socket so my criuse control work

mine works too, but need to buy clutch and brake switches..and do some extra wiring..

the only thing left untouched is ignition timing retard ?

cable colors are different on mine.. and mechanics didint understand why .. whats the advantage of that doing so ?  :-/
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #35 on: 27 July 2011, 12:44:23 »

if you join cable from BCD pins on gear selector socket (then ecu see car on D position then criuse control will work apart clutch pedal,
then you only need do some work under steering wheel.
Edit: will have look when get bak home and let you know about wiring under steering wheel
« Last Edit: 27 July 2011, 12:45:43 by serek »
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #36 on: 27 July 2011, 12:50:58 »

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if you join cable from BCD pins on gear selector socket (then ecu see car on D position then criuse control will work apart clutch pedal,
then you only need do some work under steering wheel.
Edit: will have look when get bak home and let you know about wiring under steering wheel

I understand how you did it.. like it originally works on an auto.. we connected both switches and it works ok now.. but on the notes Matchless mentioned about ignition timing retard..  (which made us all retards.. mechanics didint understand .. and me too ;D) no one understood why..  ;D :-[
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #37 on: 27 July 2011, 14:49:59 »

surely the only way to do it is to take out ALL ofthe "auto" wiring from the loom, etc. ?
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #38 on: 27 July 2011, 17:32:43 »

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surely the only way to do it is to take out ALL ofthe "auto" wiring from the loom, etc. ?

Thats the route I took with my Senator, you need the fuel injection loom from the manual though because of the starter inhibitor.
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #39 on: 27 July 2011, 17:48:34 »

This must be a trick question .........

why would you ever want more than 2 pedals?  ::) ::) ::) ;D
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« Reply #40 on: 27 July 2011, 18:00:04 »

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This must be a trick question .........

why would you ever want more than 2 pedals?  ::) ::) ::) ;D

but you dont have to use brake and accelerator at the same time ;D except some special usage..which of course is not suitable for auto..
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #41 on: 27 July 2011, 18:06:25 »

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This must be a trick question .........

why would you ever want more than 2 pedals?  ::) ::) ::) ;D

but you dont have to use brake and accelerator at the same time ;D except some special usage..which of course is not suitable for auto..

 ;D ;D :y ;)
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« Reply #42 on: 27 July 2011, 18:10:42 »

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This must be a trick question .........

why would you ever want more than 2 pedals?  ::) ::) ::) ;D

but you dont have to use brake and accelerator at the same time ;D except some special usage..which of course is not suitable for auto..

 ;D ;D :y ;)

 :y :y

and I dont think drifting with expensive rubber is good idea for my bankrupt budget ;D
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #43 on: 28 July 2011, 11:34:11 »

On the 2.5 and 3.0 there is a mode select wire when when grounded makes the ECU work in manual config.

This same wire when connected to the auto ecu receives an ignition retard signal to back the power off during a auto box shift which in turn smooths the change.

No re-programming required!
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #44 on: 28 July 2011, 11:36:24 »

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This must be a trick question .........

why would you ever want more than 2 pedals?  ::) ::) ::) ;D

2 pedals = town and motorway driving for the infirm

3 pedals = spirited driving along A, B and back roads.

Simples!
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