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[Martin_1962]

Hurrry up and buy XP while it is still for sale

[MaxV6]

Hurrry up and buy XP while it is still for sale

 ROFLMAO

go buy a mac.


it's got a proper OS, and does the defrag for you as part of the housekeeping.
(amongst other things... )

but ditto the Symantec advice... avoid like the plague, EVEN on a Mac...  


Runs, gets coat and ducks out the back sharpish

[Mikejr]

I click onto Defrag and I get the box up with Continue or Cancel, I click continue and it is asthough i have clicked cancel as it just goes off

Anyone know what do with it  other than smashin it up

As per MaxV6 go buy an Apple Mac. Mac Mini's aren't that expensive and, if you absolutely insist, will run Microsoft Windows often a lot better than a Windows PC. Although if you use your PC for gaming then the Mini would probably not be powerful enough in the graphic card department which means moving up to an iMac or Mac Pro - a lot more expensive.       

[Martin_1962]

Some useful articles


Time to update


Useful


and this

[Jay w]

Hurrry up and buy XP while it is still for sale

 ROFLMAO

go buy a mac.


it's got a proper OS, and does the defrag for you as part of the housekeeping.
(amongst other things... )

but ditto the Symantec advice... avoid like the plague, EVEN on a Mac...  


Runs, gets coat and ducks out the back sharpish

and the only argument i have to face is..........

you cant right click with a mac......

if that's the biggest issue, i can live with that

[Martin_1962]

I have a nice shiny XP Pro licence here and it is mine

[Darth Loo-knee]

Thanks or all your help with XP but i am after help with Vista

[TheBoy]

I have a nice shiny XP Pro licence here and it is mine

you dont really, as its oem, and you've changed your system, so its invalid

I have a few retails here, used, but being retail, transferable .  I have a few Vista Home Premium's here as well, unused, but oem...

[Martin_1962]

Thanks or all your help with XP but i am after help with Vista

Read the top link - you need to upgrade, there is a comparison there between Vista and its replacement

[TheBoy]

Thanks or all your help with XP but i am after help with Vista

Read the top link - you need to upgrade, there is a comparison there between Vista and its replacement

for every link you can find from the xp fanboys (who normally think its clever to knock vista (and xp when that came out), in same way that people who don't understand Linux reckon thats a better desktop) i can find dozens more to show why vista is so much better.

Assuming you are running modern hardware, vista is hard to beat for businesses - and i assume you are as you're running xp pro, so are reliant on active directory (may as well run home if not using AD).

As for non business owners, UAC on its own is enough to recommend vista, as many home users think running with admin rights all the time is some kind of penile extension.  Unfortunately, Windows' biggest flaw is all the 3rd party developers out there too stupid to program correctly, hence constantly hitting the UAC prompt, though this is improving now.


Don't knock Vista, simply as you don't know how to use it - and remember its proved reliable and stable even before sp1.

[Dave-C]

No-one got any clues what to do then

If it's been done and is up to date, don't think it'll do anything, assume it's done... is your disc partitioned... i.e. OS & Data... C=OS  D=data for example.... does it do the same on the d drive?

Must admit Vista is just about OK with me... prefer XP hands down...

DC

[Martin_1962]

Thanks or all your help with XP but i am after help with Vista

Read the top link - you need to upgrade, there is a comparison there between Vista and its replacement

for every link you can find from the xp fanboys (who normally think its clever to knock vista (and xp when that came out), in same way that people who don't understand Linux reckon thats a better desktop) i can find dozens more to show why vista is so much better.

Assuming you are running modern hardware, vista is hard to beat for businesses - and i assume you are as you're running xp pro, so are reliant on active directory (may as well run home if not using AD).

As for non business owners, UAC on its own is enough to recommend vista, as many home users think running with admin rights all the time is some kind of penile extension.  Unfortunately, Windows' biggest flaw is all the 3rd party developers out there too stupid to program correctly, hence constantly hitting the UAC prompt, though this is improving now.


Don't knock Vista, simply as you don't know how to use it - and remember its proved reliable and stable even before sp1.

There are other reasons to run XP Pro not just Active Directory - just can't remember what.

Anyway XP works, quite well, no need to replace.

ANyway how do you do full screen DOS in VIsta?

[Martin_1962]

ALL of our customers are sticking to XP, some are still 98 but our latest software runs on XP and 2000. The same OSes run our DOS software fine, with no real issues apart from the clock going into sleep when a DOS programme is in background.

In our office mainly XP, 1 2000, 2 98 - I have 98 and XP under my desk.

One customer tested Vista but found XP preferable to use and they have their own IT department, they tried our latest software and we were blocked on registry, the other company they used (on one site didn't work at all).

Vista is basically an answer without a question.

As to software programmes do not get written overnight, our just ending life cycle software lasted for 14 years, the windows software has taken 3 years so far and is still being added to. There are loads of vertical market software solutions of a great age, this is how it goes.

Of course we could all outsource to programmer farms in India - but then what is the point of being in business.

What is interesting is that it is only the PC market which forces frequent rewrites, whereas not much changes on minis and mainframes.

[TheBoy]

Thanks or all your help with XP but i am after help with Vista

Read the top link - you need to upgrade, there is a comparison there between Vista and its replacement

for every link you can find from the xp fanboys (who normally think its clever to knock vista (and xp when that came out), in same way that people who don't understand Linux reckon thats a better desktop) i can find dozens more to show why vista is so much better.

Assuming you are running modern hardware, vista is hard to beat for businesses - and i assume you are as you're running xp pro, so are reliant on active directory (may as well run home if not using AD).

As for non business owners, UAC on its own is enough to recommend vista, as many home users think running with admin rights all the time is some kind of penile extension.  Unfortunately, Windows' biggest flaw is all the 3rd party developers out there too stupid to program correctly, hence constantly hitting the UAC prompt, though this is improving now.


Don't knock Vista, simply as you don't know how to use it - and remember its proved reliable and stable even before sp1.

There are other reasons to run XP Pro not just Active Directory - just can't remember what.

Anyway XP works, quite well, no need to replace.

ANyway how do you do full screen DOS in VIsta?

No other reason to run XP Pro other than AD.

As for DOS. Why the hell is anyone still running 16bit crap in this day and age?

XP is obviously fine for you.  IIRC, you run an old slowish P4?  XP is probably better for that as its quite an old system.

[Martin_1962]

Thanks or all your help with XP but i am after help with Vista

Read the top link - you need to upgrade, there is a comparison there between Vista and its replacement

for every link you can find from the xp fanboys (who normally think its clever to knock vista (and xp when that came out), in same way that people who don't understand Linux reckon thats a better desktop) i can find dozens more to show why vista is so much better.

Assuming you are running modern hardware, vista is hard to beat for businesses - and i assume you are as you're running xp pro, so are reliant on active directory (may as well run home if not using AD).

As for non business owners, UAC on its own is enough to recommend vista, as many home users think running with admin rights all the time is some kind of penile extension.  Unfortunately, Windows' biggest flaw is all the 3rd party developers out there too stupid to program correctly, hence constantly hitting the UAC prompt, though this is improving now.


Don't knock Vista, simply as you don't know how to use it - and remember its proved reliable and stable even before sp1.

There are other reasons to run XP Pro not just Active Directory - just can't remember what.

Anyway XP works, quite well, no need to replace.

ANyway how do you do full screen DOS in VIsta?

No other reason to run XP Pro other than AD.

As for DOS. Why the hell is anyone still running 16bit crap in this day and age?

XP is obviously fine for you.  IIRC, you run an old slowish P4?  XP is probably better for that as its quite an old system.

DOS apps - there are still thousands out there - they work and work well - why replace with software which doesn't do the job, we have replaced windows software as late as last year with DOS software and the users got a lot better system, just because it is not using the Windows API does not make it obsolete.

Since we have not yet converted some of our apps to Windows we are still installing DOS apps this week.

So what if some of our competitors are all Windows? so what if their pricing is less flexible, so what if the first run we got 5% less waste on a run (the optimiser core code is identical DOS & Windows).

Like most small software houses our systems evolve, and our first windows apps are already out of date, but will be replaced before some of the DOS sections.

Our windows conversion is taking so long as we are converting the best DOS app in our industry.

Our windows version we feel will be interim until we move to a .net platform.

As our office manager notived at a hotel - they were using what looked and felt like a DOS Clipper application, newish computers but software which does the job