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[TheBoy]

Chipped manual tractor, 32 sounds low. I used to get that from chipped auto tractor, which was always ragged.

STandard 3.2 Elite, best I ever managed over a tank was 30mpg, which was a (mostly) 80mph cruise back from Wales, until the red mist descended

[jonnycool]

Chipped manual tractor, 32 sounds low. I used to get that from chipped auto tractor, which was always ragged.

STandard 3.2 Elite, best I ever managed over a tank was 30mpg, which was a (mostly) 80mph cruise back from Wales, until the red mist descended

And then what?? 

I mean, you're already doing 80...

[SteveAvfc.]

Drive 2.2 petrol and traveled from Bristol to Liverpool  over the weekend got 35.9mpg according to the display averaging 80 mph well chuffed 2.2s not renowned for being fuel efficient but was please with it's return.

[neil3l]

Get 23 local, just about 30 on a long run( Elite). Which is a major disappointment after constant 35's from the 24v Carlton I had, trashing the guts out of it constantly, that's progress for ya 

[albitz]

Same figures as I get from my 2.5, which is worse than my 24v Senny used to do.And it was driven a lot harder. As you say - progress.

[henryd]

I always found my 2.5 to be quite thirsty,the Merc I run now is quite a bit better on fuel 

[TheBoy]

Same figures as I get from my 2.5, which is worse than my 24v Senny used to do.And it was driven a lot harder. As you say - progress.

How much did the Senator weigh?

To be honest, I reckon all the green do-gooder shite fitted to modern engines hurts MPG.  Certainly, without any shadow of a doubt, the 2.6/3.2 aren't as economical as 2.5/3.0

Another factor is, even 10yrs ago, the trunk roads were empty, allowing decent cruise MPG. Howadays every cock sits in outside lane going slow.

[albitz]

Pretty sure the Senator was similar weight to an Omega.May have even been a bit heavier as it was bigger.Traffic levels were bad 10 years ago.Now however,they are appalling,could be a factor.
Straight six was also a far better engine though.

[TheBoy]

Pretty sure the Senator was similar weight to an Omega.May have even been a bit heavier as it was bigger.Traffic levels were bad 10 years ago.Now however,they are appalling,could be a factor.
Straight six was also a far better engine though.

I had a feeling the Senator was lighter. Didn't have to lug about all the saftey shite.

We'll never agree on which engine was 'best' (best for what though?)

[albitz]

Best for everything. ............must do a bit of research on Senator weight,Im curious now.
Wouldnt want to try and bore a V6 out to 3.6 and put a couple of turbos on it.

[Andy B]

Best for everything. ............must do a bit of research on Senator weight,Im curious now.
Wouldnt want to try and bore a V6 out to 3.6 and put a couple of turbos on it.

Somewhat lighter.
According to Mr Haynes :- kerb weight of a 2.5 man was 1445kg & a proper 3.0 24v with a/c was 1575kg 

If you've ever removed a front seat from an Elite you'll know how heavy they are. 

[TheBoy]

Best for everything. ............must do a bit of research on Senator weight,Im curious now.
Wouldnt want to try and bore a V6 out to 3.6 and put a couple of turbos on it.

The do-gooders have ruined that sort of inovation 

Probably the do-gooders were the reason for the lack of v8 Miggy, as the official excuse seems poor.

[TheBoy]

If you've ever removed a front seat from an Elite you'll know how heavy they are. 

Got the square gonads to prove it

Actually, MV6 seat coming out this weekend...

[albitz]

1575kg is a bit lighter,but not really enough to notice I wouldnt have thought. Talking of heavy seats,CD spec drivers seat isnt exactly light.I fell over backwards while carrying one a year or so ago.It land on top of me and cracked a rib.

[TheBoy]

I fell over backwards while carrying one a year or so ago.It land on top of me and cracked a rib.

I tried hard not to laugh....

...I'm just a failure