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yes

14 (30.4%)

no

29 (63%)

undecided

3 (6.5%)

Total Members Voted: 38

Voting closed: 29 November 2011, 19:36:51

[Kevin Wood]

The result of the poll on here? I hardly think a bunch of middle aged omega drivers would be considered representative 

I don't know so much. It's probably the widest cross-section of people that I belong to.

[tunnie]

The result of the poll on here? I hardly think a bunch of middle aged omega drivers would be considered representative 

Oi, some of us aren't middle aged yet, you know 

Yup not all of us are old farts! 

I resolved some of pension issues, by increasing my contributions 

[aaronjb]

The result of the poll on here? I hardly think a bunch of middle aged omega drivers would be considered representative 

Oi, some of us aren't middle aged yet, you know 

Yup not all of us are old farts! 

I resolved some of pension issues, by increasing my contributions 

I resolved mine by planning to kick the bucket before retiring.. 

[STMO123]

The result of the poll on here? I hardly think a bunch of middle aged omega drivers would be considered representative 

I don't know so much. It's probably the widest cross-section of people that I belong to.

Oh dear.

[Varche]

The poll could never be anything other than unrepresentative.

I bet there are plenty of people who have read this thread and thought they would love to contribute "for" but with a few exceptions haven't felt able to do so. The tone was set from the first three posts. As it progressed the chances of it being representative got smaller and smaller.

[STMO123]

The poll could never be anything other than unrepresentative.

I bet there are plenty of people who have read this thread and thought they would love to contribute "for" but with a few exceptions haven't felt able to do so. The tone was set from the first three posts. As it progressed the chances of it being representative got smaller and smaller.

Exactly Varche, dothering old Thatcherites 

[STMO123]

And, while we're on the subject, I feel that I am entitled to comment on the subject because I wil be directly affected. But those of you to whom it will make absolutely no difference to your financial position whether public sector pensions are reduced or not, ask yourself why you feel so strongly about it. Out of some concern for the country, or possibly to ensure we pay our way in the world. Perhaps a new-found sense of fairness?
I think not. Envy is indeed a very strong and unpleasant emotion.

[Kevin Wood]

And, while we're on the subject, I feel that I am entitled to comment on the subject because I wil be directly affected. But those of you to whom it will make absolutely no difference to your financial position whether public sector pensions are reduced or not, ask yourself why you feel so strongly about it. Out of some concern for the country, or possibly to ensure we pay our way in the world. Perhaps a new-found sense of fairness?
I think not. Envy is indeed a very strong and unpleasant emotion.

Who would they be, then?

It's in all our interests that the government stand their ground and demonstrate that they are sorting out our current financial fiasco, surely?

[STMO123]

And, while we're on the subject, I feel that I am entitled to comment on the subject because I wil be directly affected. But those of you to whom it will make absolutely no difference to your financial position whether public sector pensions are reduced or not, ask yourself why you feel so strongly about it. Out of some concern for the country, or possibly to ensure we pay our way in the world. Perhaps a new-found sense of fairness?
I think not. Envy is indeed a very strong and unpleasant emotion.

Who would they be, then?

It's in all our interests that the government stand their ground and demonstrate that they are sorting out our current financial fiasco, surely?

3p on the basic rate of income tax would sort it out at a stroke, why not do that?

[tunnie]

I'd rather see that 3p rise going to fix pot holes!

[STMO123]

I'd rather see that 3p rise going to fix pot holes!

Haven't seen a pothole for months. Still, plenty of time for the quick repairs they did last year to break up again at the first sign of a frost.

[STMO123]

Just been doing the figures. It looks as though, despite whatever action unions take, the pension cuts will go ahead.
 
I have decided that we will not be paying for it. The red cross and macmillan can pay for it. Let the rather government look after kids in far flung places and pay for advice about cancer, they should be doing it anyway.
 
Books balanced Which is more than I can say for George

[Nickbat]

I am firmly against the strike. For a start, it won't achieve anything, other than cause great inconvenience and a missed day's pay for many.

There is simply no way that the public sector can avoid facing the realities of declining number of workers paying into schemes against an increase in the number drawing from them. It is unsustainable. Furthermore, private sector pensions have suffered greatly (my pot has fallen in value), so why shouldn't public sector workers face the same? Why should they think they are in some way more entitled to benefits than private sector workers?   

[Kevin Wood]

And, while we're on the subject, I feel that I am entitled to comment on the subject because I wil be directly affected. But those of you to whom it will make absolutely no difference to your financial position whether public sector pensions are reduced or not, ask yourself why you feel so strongly about it. Out of some concern for the country, or possibly to ensure we pay our way in the world. Perhaps a new-found sense of fairness?
I think not. Envy is indeed a very strong and unpleasant emotion.

Who would they be, then?

It's in all our interests that the government stand their ground and demonstrate that they are sorting out our current financial fiasco, surely?

3p on the basic rate of income tax would sort it out at a stroke, why not do that?

So the unions wouldn't call the public sector out on strike if that happened?

.. and we'd still be employing too many, on packages that aren't competitive.

[aaronjb]

Jacking up tax would be career suicide, of course.. lets face it, in the face if needing to raise billions, they've already called off the tax rise on petrol (which would have raised quite a bit of money for the exchequer, I'm sure)..

They're damned if they do and damned if they don't.

"LOWER TAXES!" people shout.
"HIGHER PENSIONS/PAY!" people shout.

Hm.. we should just plant a few magical money trees and solve everything, clearly