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Title: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: Webby the Bear on 22 May 2012, 18:52:50
Hi chaps, hope you're all well and bloody loving this weather  ;)

In the next couple of weeks I am going to service a mate's Mercedes C-Class Coupe. Went to see it today as I wanted to familiarise myself with the engine. Really looks very easy.... remove the HUGE platic cover and it's all there...plus the most pointless plastic ''flap'' covering the brake fluid resevoir  :-\

Anyway, I'm going to give it a full service. And cos of this I'm going to get a Haynes manual just to double check the things I will do. The car is this: (Merc C-Class Coupe 220 CDI)... not the actual car but exactly the same.
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee402/webbybear1/mercedes-c-class-coupe-1.jpg)

However, Mr Haynes doesn't appear to do a specific manual... but will this one be ok do you think....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-C160-C180-C200-C220-C230-C270-Haynes-Manual-/200622310021?pt=UK_CarParts_Vehicles_Manuals_Litterature_ET&hash=item2eb6058285

TIA chaps  :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: RobG on 22 May 2012, 18:57:20
 :y
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: Webby the Bear on 22 May 2012, 18:58:08
:y

Cheers mate.  :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: RobG on 22 May 2012, 18:59:35
:y

Cheers mate.  :y :y :y :y
Huh, what happened to all the exotic names then :P ;D
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: henryd on 22 May 2012, 19:03:32
The service items,Oil,air and fuel filters are quite easy to access on those Mercs so not a bad job
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: Webby the Bear on 22 May 2012, 19:05:12
:y

Cheers mate.  :y :y :y :y
Huh, what happened to all the exotic names then :P ;D

Haha my bad Bro Montana ;)

oooh by the way, can i bleed and flush the brake fluid like a mig? i.e. the two person method ''press-release'' or do yoiu reckon it'll need a different method.

her car dont have a dipstick either and the level is given on her car's dash computer. how stupid is that! obviously checking the level is fine but you'd want to check the quality too  ::)

on all diesels it is glow plugs innit?

 :y
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: Webby the Bear on 22 May 2012, 19:05:45
The service items,Oil,air and fuel filters are quite easy to access on those Mercs so not a bad job

cheers mate, yeah all LOOKS a piece of piss ;)
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: RobG on 22 May 2012, 19:08:15
:y

Cheers mate.  :y :y :y :y
Huh, what happened to all the exotic names then :P ;D

Haha my bad Bro Montana ;)

oooh by the way, can i bleed and flush the brake fluid like a mig? i.e. the two person method ''press-release'' or do yoiu reckon it'll need a different method.

her car dont have a dipstick either and the level is given on her car's dash computer. how stupid is that! obviously checking the level is fine but you'd want to check the quality too  ::)

on all diesels it is glow plugs innit?

 :y
That`s who`s doing the service innit ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: henryd on 22 May 2012, 19:08:33
The service items,Oil,air and fuel filters are quite easy to access on those Mercs so not a bad job

cheers mate, yeah all LOOKS a piece of piss ;)

Before you drain the oil out make sure there is a dipstick fitted and not just a stopper,not all Mercs have dipsticks,there classed as workshop tools,don't rather ask me how I found out :-X

Edit note to self,read all the thread before posting :-[
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: omega3000 on 22 May 2012, 19:30:58
The service items,Oil,air and fuel filters are quite easy to access on those Mercs so not a bad job

cheers mate, yeah all LOOKS a piece of piss ;)

Before you drain the oil out make sure there is a dipstick fitted and not just a stopper,not all Mercs have dipsticks,there classed as workshop tools,don't rather ask me how I found out :-X

Edit note to self,read all the thread before posting :-[

 ::) ::) ::) why would anyone buy a car without the facility to manually check the oil  :(

Anyway good luck with the service mr webmeister  :y
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: Andy B on 22 May 2012, 19:34:02
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 ::) ::) ::) why would anyone buy a car without the facility to manually check the oil  :(

Anyway good luck with the service mr webmeister  :y

and you knew your Omega came without a gearbox dipstick ......  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: Webby the Bear on 22 May 2012, 20:15:54
Cheers guys. really looking forward to it.  just ordered the haynes manual. it is nice to work on different things as it's all experience.

i'm going to admit it now, when i'm qualified i'd really like to work for mercedes. i've always loved them and as i get older i'm interested more in the big lux barges as opposed to the sporty 2 seaters  :y

just a quickie and its just for discussion really as im sure the haynes will tell me.... glow plugs. are they same procedure for removal as spark plugs? will ii need a special socket do you think?

just thinking also i can prob get her some vaux diesel engine oil on trade  :y
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: henryd on 22 May 2012, 20:28:36
Webby, if the glowplugs are working ok leave well alone, its very east to snap one off in the head due to there small diameter and being steel into aluminium
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: Webby the Bear on 22 May 2012, 20:33:19
Webby, if the glowplugs are working ok leave well alone, its very east to snap one off in the head due to there small diameter and being steel into aluminium

ok mate no problem. ill take your advice. the cars running well with no probs... its literally just a service.

she defo needs a new aux belt (i shan't do this). but theres massive cracks in it  :o
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: henryd on 22 May 2012, 21:53:05
Webby, if the glowplugs are working ok leave well alone, its very east to snap one off in the head due to there small diameter and being steel into aluminium

ok mate no problem. ill take your advice. the cars running well with no probs... its literally just a service.

she defo needs a new aux belt (i shan't do this). but theres massive cracks in it  :o

you should find that the aux belt is quite easy to change,spring loaded tensioner much like the mig,draw a pic of the belt routing first though :D,the glowplugs aren't a service replacement part anyway so no worrys there :y :y
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: Webby the Bear on 22 May 2012, 22:07:42
cheers henry. ill double check everything in the manual. if i have any q's ill be back  :D :D :y

cheers for all ya help  :y
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: henryd on 22 May 2012, 22:08:56
cheers henry. ill double check everything in the manual. if i have any q's ill be back  :D :D :y

cheers for all ya help  :y

No worries mate,have fun :D :y
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: albitz on 22 May 2012, 22:32:43
I had a C class a couple of years ago Webby. A piece of p1ss to work on compared to a v6 omega. :y
A basic service will take about an hour,including half hour teabreak. :y ;D
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: henryd on 22 May 2012, 22:34:36
I had a C class a couple of years ago Webby. A piece of p1ss to work on compared to a v6 omega. :y
A basic service will take about an hour,including half hour teabreak. :y ;D

sshhhhhhhh don't tell everyone :D :D
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: Webby the Bear on 22 May 2012, 22:34:44
I had a C class a couple of years ago Webby. A piece of p1ss to work on compared to a v6 omega. :y
A basic service will take about an hour,including half hour teabreak. :y ;D

Haha sounds good mate! she's offered to pay me full garage whack! lol i said ''nar, dont worry about it, not doing it to make dosh yet... but ill take payment in kind''  :y
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: albitz on 22 May 2012, 22:43:08
Thats the spirit son. :y ;D ;D
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: Webby the Bear on 25 May 2012, 23:29:20
Not bumpin..... but just got this quote from Mercedes for my mate's parts..
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee402/webbybear1/mercw.png)
£83.37 for one oil change (car takes 6.5L)  :o :o :o :o

Also safety cartridge???? Dust Filter????

I asked for a quote on oil, oil filter (got those) but what the fek is a safety cartridege? cabin filter perhaps? Dust filter is air filter perhaps?

Soooo unhelpful. To halfords it is
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: henryd on 26 May 2012, 11:29:49
just googled that part number MA6460940004 and its an air filter, the dust filter is the cabin filter I believe
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: Omegatoy on 26 May 2012, 19:17:25
did a belt on a c class 220cdi last week, ten minute job!!! :y
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: Andy B on 26 May 2012, 22:25:40
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£83.37 for one oil change (car takes 6.5L)  :o :o :o :o
 ......

Easy to get to prices like that when they charge £110 labour. One of the Mercs I went to view the other week and the garage showed me the bill for recent work on it. There wasn't anything specific, but the total bill was around £950  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: Webby the Bear on 27 May 2012, 21:44:45
cheers for replies chaps. Thanks for clarifying that filter name thing. Just got the manual. OMG everything is easy access in the engine bay. Ha ha love it. Less time under the car is a bonus for me. The oil he's quoted for is 0w 30 diesel oil. Can i get the same GM stuff on TC? Cheers again chaps x
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: Webby the Bear on 28 May 2012, 13:01:15
Awesome! just called Vx.
0w30 diesel oil on TC.... £37 for 7 litres.

happy days.

just halfrauds now for the rest of the stuff  :y
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: Webby the Bear on 30 May 2012, 22:01:15
Well, got the parts for the Merc's service. Still got the oil, PAS fluid and ATF to get but anyone would think it was the car's Christmas looking at this... was there really any need to wrap them up lol  ::)
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee402/webbybear1/MercedesServiceParts.jpg)

Can't quite believe it but Merc dealer was cheaper than Halfrauds and a lot cheaper than ECParts. WTF  ???
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: martin42 on 30 May 2012, 22:03:00
some times it pays to go to a main dealer,with mercs make sure you use the correct oil and its not cheap either  :y
Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: Webby the Bear on 30 May 2012, 22:07:35
some times it pays to go to a main dealer,with mercs make sure you use the correct oil and its not cheap either  :y

TBH Martin, Im going to use GM oil. £37 on TC for 7L  :y

Title: Re: Haynes Manual Question (non-omega... Mercedes)
Post by: omega3000 on 31 May 2012, 11:01:13
Nice colour coordinated box wrappers from the dealers  8)