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Title: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: tunnie on 08 June 2012, 09:52:53
FatherT's Air-con stopped working again, we have his 2.2 MOT'd there as its always passed ok! They did a re-gas which fixed it last time, but it stopped working again, they checked it over and kindly provided this list from a "Visual Heath check"

Vehicle came in for Aircon inop Requires :-
Aircon radiator leaking £454.79
 
Bonnet cable snapped Requires :-
Bonnet cable £173.15
 
Carried out full  Visual Health Check on veh , also requires :-
 
Has slight wear in n/s steering idler  £190.19
 
o/s/r coil spring broken - non gen spring £146.39
 
Exhaust Manifold blowing , may also require studs drilling out £372.22
 
N/S/F Tyre on 1.6mm  on inner edge
O/S/F tYRE ON 2mm on inner edge
Rear tyres on 3mm  Budget tyres in stock £113.40 Each
 
Reset tracking £35.00



 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o


A steering idler, £190!? A single coil spring £140!?! Christ!  >:(

Needless to say I've told FatherT to politely decline their work!

Funny thing is, they don't mention the cambelt, which is due!

Can anyone recommend suitable air-con rad? Sure can fix it for less than their quote! 
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: RobG on 08 June 2012, 09:56:58
http://www.autoairconparts.co.uk/vauxhall-omega-b-Car-air-conditioning-compressors-pumps-aircon-radiators-and-more/
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: henryd on 08 June 2012, 10:02:30
Bloody hell Tunnie,I assume they provide the Vaseline free of charge :-X
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: tunnie on 08 June 2012, 10:03:14
http://www.autoairconparts.co.uk/vauxhall-omega-b-Car-air-conditioning-compressors-pumps-aircon-radiators-and-more/

£80 quid, much better for the rad. Cheers Rob  :y

Can the air-con rad be replaced on its own, does the evaporator need to be replaced too?
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: TheBoy on 08 June 2012, 10:04:53
http://www.autoairconparts.co.uk/vauxhall-omega-b-Car-air-conditioning-compressors-pumps-aircon-radiators-and-more/

£80 quid, much better for the rad. Cheers Rob  :y

Can the air-con rad be replaced on its own, does the evaporator need to be replaced too?
If the evap needs changing, scrap the car :P
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: tunnie on 08 June 2012, 10:08:48
http://www.autoairconparts.co.uk/vauxhall-omega-b-Car-air-conditioning-compressors-pumps-aircon-radiators-and-more/

£80 quid, much better for the rad. Cheers Rob  :y

Can the air-con rad be replaced on its own, does the evaporator need to be replaced too?
If the evap needs changing, scrap the car :P

Take that as a no then  ::)

That said, aircon, cambelt, tyres, springs, all of which I can do, but maybe its time for FatherT to get a V8  :D
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: jonny2112 on 08 June 2012, 10:49:33
I had my first visual health check recently, also following aircon recharge, but the quotes weren't that scary  :o
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 June 2012, 10:54:57
FatherT's Air-con stopped working again, we have his 2.2 MOT'd there as its always passed ok! They did a re-gas which fixed it last time, but it stopped working again, they checked it over and kindly provided this list from a "Visual Heath check"

Vehicle came in for Aircon inop Requires :-
Aircon radiator leaking £454.79
 
Bonnet cable snapped Requires :-
Bonnet cable £173.15
 
Carried out full  Visual Health Check on veh , also requires :-
 
Has slight wear in n/s steering idler  £190.19
 
o/s/r coil spring broken - non gen spring £146.39
 
Exhaust Manifold blowing , may also require studs drilling out £372.22
 
N/S/F Tyre on 1.6mm  on inner edge
O/S/F tYRE ON 2mm on inner edge
Rear tyres on 3mm  Budget tyres in stock £113.40 Each
 
Reset tracking £35.00



 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o


A steering idler, £190!? A single coil spring £140!?! Christ!  >:(

Needless to say I've told FatherT to politely decline their work!

Funny thing is, they don't mention the cambelt, which is due!

Can anyone recommend suitable air-con rad? Sure can fix it for less than their quote!


£1598.54...... :)

A sense of humour is a wonderful thing. ;D ;D ;)......but don't forget the cambelt.
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 June 2012, 11:00:29
FatherT's Air-con stopped working again, we have his 2.2 MOT'd there as its always passed ok! They did a re-gas which fixed it last time, but it stopped working again, they checked it over and kindly provided this list from a "Visual Heath check"

Vehicle came in for Aircon inop Requires :-
Aircon radiator leaking £454.79
 
Bonnet cable snapped Requires :-
Bonnet cable £173.15
 
Carried out full  Visual Health Check on veh , also requires :-
 
Has slight wear in n/s steering idler  £190.19
 
o/s/r coil spring broken - non gen spring £146.39
 
Exhaust Manifold blowing , may also require studs drilling out £372.22
 
N/S/F Tyre on 1.6mm  on inner edge
O/S/F tYRE ON 2mm on inner edge
Rear tyres on 3mm Budget tyres in stock £113.40 Each
 
Reset tracking £35.00



 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o


A steering idler, £190!? A single coil spring £140!?! Christ!  >:(

Needless to say I've told FatherT to politely decline their work!

Funny thing is, they don't mention the cambelt, which is due!

Can anyone recommend suitable air-con rad? Sure can fix it for less than their quote!


More in the £60-£90 bracket......I think.
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 June 2012, 11:01:35
Quote
Budget tyres in stock £113.40 Each

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26795734/Smilies/rofl.gif)

What? For a ditchfinder, no doubt?
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: tunnie on 08 June 2012, 11:40:32
Quote
Budget tyres in stock £113.40 Each

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26795734/Smilies/rofl.gif)

What? For a ditchfinder, no doubt?

I know, 16's too, I paid less than that for mid range 17's!
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: dbug on 08 June 2012, 13:53:35
FFS thats some quote - at least a large tub of Vaseline required :o :o

I've used these people (http://www.carcooling.co.uk/catalog/Vauxhall_Omega_B_94_03-2348-1.html) for replacement radiators in the past - good quality and service - sure their condensors will be ok too :y
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: tunnie on 08 June 2012, 14:17:39
FFS thats some quote - at least a large tub of Vaseline required :o :o

I've used these people (http://www.carcooling.co.uk/catalog/Vauxhall_Omega_B_94_03-2348-1.html) for replacement radiators in the past - good quality and service - sure their condensors will be ok too :y

Cheers  :y

I think we will have to add up the little list of jobs, see whats what. Even DIY quite a few jobs need doing  :)
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: omega3000 on 08 June 2012, 15:10:24
FatherT's Air-con stopped working again, we have his 2.2 MOT'd there as its always passed ok! They did a re-gas which fixed it last time, but it stopped working again, they checked it over and kindly provided this list from a "Visual Heath check"

Vehicle came in for Aircon inop Requires :-
Aircon radiator leaking £454.79
 
Bonnet cable snapped Requires :-
Bonnet cable £173.15   :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
 
Carried out full  Visual Health Check on veh , also requires :-
 
Has slight wear in n/s steering idler  £190.19
 
o/s/r coil spring broken - non gen spring £146.39
 
Exhaust Manifold blowing , may also require studs drilling out £372.22
 
N/S/F Tyre on 1.6mm  on inner edge
O/S/F tYRE ON 2mm on inner edge
Rear tyres on 3mm  Budget tyres in stock £113.40 Each
 
Reset tracking £35.00



 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o


A steering idler, £190!? A single coil spring £140!?! Christ!  >:(

Needless to say I've told FatherT to politely decline their work!

Funny thing is, they don't mention the cambelt, which is due!

Can anyone recommend suitable air-con rad? Sure can fix it for less than their quote!


£1598.54...... :)

A sense of humour is a wonderful thing. ;D ;D ;)......but don't forget the cambelt.


 :o   would that be inc VAT  :D
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 June 2012, 16:23:14
I'm not justifying the cost, but these prices will include labour and VaT :-\

No trade, or any other discount on the quoted work either, and the tyre prices are daft, like you said you could probably get Michelin ones for that ::)

If nothing else, you now know what's potentially up with it :y
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: tunnie on 08 June 2012, 16:25:14
I'm not justifying the cost, but these prices will include labour and VaT :-\

No trade, or any other discount on the quoted work either, and the tyre prices are daft, like you said you could probably get Michelin ones for that ::)

If nothing else, you now know what's potentially up with it :y

Yeah, I had no idea a spring had broken  :-[

Not long passed an MOT either!
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: TheBoy on 08 June 2012, 21:44:41
Quote
Budget tyres in stock £113.40 Each

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26795734/Smilies/rofl.gif)

What? For a ditchfinder, no doubt?

I know, 16's too, I paid less than that for mid range 17's!
That 225/55/16 is generally more expensive than 235/45/17 as not so common.
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: TheBoy on 08 June 2012, 21:45:59
Even DIY quite a few jobs need doing  :)
Not kept up with preventative mtce, thus all these have come together ;).

Springs often arent picked up on MOT.
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: feeutfo on 09 June 2012, 00:53:24
An interesting exercise in rape and pillage from vx by the looks. ;D

Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: jonathanh on 09 June 2012, 07:55:46
To be fair to the dealers here, they've got to make money somewhere and there are enough people out there that would pay those prices because they know no different, paricularly on a newer vehicle.  Vx dealers have to pay for the steel and glass and free coffee somehow..

And for what its worth there is no way i'd pay any of that!
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: tunnie on 09 June 2012, 08:15:00
Even DIY quite a few jobs need doing  :)
Not kept up with preventative mtce, thus all these have come together ;).

Springs often arent picked up on MOT.

Springs, can't really do those on preventive maintenance, cambelt, well thats just time for it. As are tyres really as well, aircon again, not a lot you can do there until it breaks.
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: TheBoy on 09 June 2012, 10:31:41
Even DIY quite a few jobs need doing  :)
Not kept up with preventative mtce, thus all these have come together ;).

Springs often arent picked up on MOT.

Springs, can't really do those on preventive maintenance, cambelt, well thats just time for it. As are tyres really as well, aircon again, not a lot you can do there until it breaks.
Think you misunderstood my point, which wasn't a critism at you, it was a 'public notice' for everyone.

This bits didn't all just go wrong together, must have happened over a period of time, but by not spending a few mins going around the car regularly, weren't picked up until an inspection.

Many people think the annual MOT inspection is enough. IMHO, its not, because its not regular enough, and its not thorough enough.

No critism intended :)
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: tunnie on 09 June 2012, 10:35:03
Sadly I don't get chance to go over the cars as often any more, talking a few months here  :(
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: TheBoy on 09 June 2012, 11:05:29
Sadly I don't get chance to go over the cars as often any more, talking a few months here  :(
Thats my point :y.  For whatever reason - laziness/xbox/family/living away/whatever - if the preventative maintenence isn't carried out, costs can creep up.  Unlike a lot of members who have passed through, I've always said Omegas are cheap to run (ignoring go-go juice) if you keep on top of preventative maintenence, rather than break-fix.
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: Shackeng on 09 June 2012, 11:12:23
Sadly I don't get chance to go over the cars as often any more, talking a few months here  :(
Thats my point :y.  For whatever reason - laziness/xbox/family/living away/whatever - if the preventative maintenence isn't carried out, costs can creep up.  Unlike a lot of members who have passed through, I've always said Omegas are cheap to run (ignoring go-go juice) if you keep on top of preventative maintenence, rather than break-fix.

Who said that? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: tunnie on 09 June 2012, 11:16:19
Sadly I don't get chance to go over the cars as often any more, talking a few months here  :(
Thats my point :y.  For whatever reason - laziness/xbox/family/living away/whatever - if the preventative maintenence isn't carried out, costs can creep up.  Unlike a lot of members who have passed through, I've always said Omegas are cheap to run (ignoring go-go juice) if you keep on top of preventative maintenence, rather than break-fix.

Only cambelt could have been done earlier, other failures could have happened at any time, particularly aircon/springs.

Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: omega3000 on 09 June 2012, 12:10:04
To be fair to the dealers here, they've got to make money somewhere and there are enough people out there that would pay those prices because they know no different, paricularly on a newer vehicle.  Vx dealers have to pay for the steel and glass and free coffee somehow..

And for what its worth there is no way i'd pay any of that!
:y

VX must use common sense by looking at the registered omegas on the road and price the parts accordingly ,
there is no other way they would shift the parts they stock or get hold of at over inflated prices esp to folks who dont know any better , they realise yes you can get aftermarket parts but some parts you have to buy from them and pay through the nose for them . Alarming prices they are but a lot of people will pay that ..i for one wont either  :y
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: Nick W on 09 June 2012, 12:40:47


VX must use common sense by looking at the registered omegas on the road and price the parts accordingly ,
there is no other way they would shift the parts they stock or get hold of at over inflated prices esp to folks who dont know any better , they realise yes you can get aftermarket parts but some parts you have to buy from them and pay through the nose for them . Alarming prices they are but a lot of people will pay that ..i for one wont either  :y

Manufacturers have no qualms about looking at stock that hasn't moved for years, and simply disposing of it. Many of the specialist old parts suppliers get much of their stock by saving the storemen the hassle of dumping it all in a skip. This is true of any type of stores. I've done it myself; we needed the space and so over £8k of old spares went in the bin. There had been no movement on any of it in 8 years. I suspect the previous stores manager used to sneak in when everybody else had gone home and admire it all!

Considering that the youngest Omega is 8 years old, do really think that Vauxhall have even the slightest interest in them?

Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 June 2012, 14:20:03
To be fair to the dealers here, they've got to make money somewhere and there are enough people out there that would pay those prices because they know no different, paricularly on a newer vehicle.  Vx dealers have to pay for the steel and glass and free coffee somehow..

And for what its worth there is no way i'd pay any of that!


Coffee machine at my Vauxhall dealer........and it's not free. ;)
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 09 June 2012, 14:57:59
Quote
Budget tyres in stock £113.40 Each

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26795734/Smilies/rofl.gif)

What? For a ditchfinder, no doubt?

I know, 16's too, I paid less than that for mid range 17's!
That 225/55/16 is generally more expensive than 235/45/17 as not so common.

paid £240 set of 4 only budgets dont do any miles false economy i know but all we could afford at the time :y

when i had my ducato serviced intim £200 :o asked if i wanted it washed thought result yes please sitting having a coffee whilst waiting spotted a price list car washing£20 vans £40 :o :o after spraying bthe contents of my coffee over the table i asked them not to worry about the washing as i did not have time ;D
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: SMD on 09 June 2012, 15:14:53
Coffee was free at my local Saab/VX main dealer. Shame they went under as it was a classy joint.

TB, can understand preventative maintenance of certain items but how so on springs? So you walk around the car and notice the springs are a bit worse for wear, what do you do to prevent them from breaking ?

Just curious
Title: Re: Insane Vauxhall Service Quote
Post by: TheBoy on 09 June 2012, 17:18:10
In tunnie's case, they have probably been broken for months. As have many other things.  So its expensive to hit them in one go when they are all noticed together.

Springs, you can tell the state visually.  If I think they are looking a bit ragged, I'll be checking them regularly, and probably ordering in a set to change them before they break.  Law of sod will dictate they will break at the most inconvenient time.