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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: waspy on 23 July 2012, 17:38:17
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on an Estate? I've found double sided sticky tape, but there's something more solid stopping it from coming off :'(
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Mine was originally stuck on with the 3M gunk supplied with the spoiler by Irmscher :-\ when I changed the tailgate after a bump, it was chiselled carefully off the old one. I then stuck it on to the new tailgate using a Sikaflex product :y
Mine was supplied with a couple of locating pins as well, but not sure if they all were :-\
Whatever it was stuck on with, you can guarantee that it'll stick like poo to the proverbial blanket :y
Not sure if the Elite spoilers are screwed at all :-\ they are not the same :y
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on an Estate? I've found double sided sticky tape, but there's something more solid stopping it from coming off :'(
The early PFL Irmscher Eatate spoilers also had two bolts holding it on from memory, should be able to access the stud bolts from inside the tailgate.
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on an Estate? I've found double sided sticky tape, but there's something more solid stopping it from coming off :'(
The early PFL Irmscher Eatate spoilers also had two bolts holding it on from memory, should be able to access the stud bolts from inside the tailgate.
Thank you to you both.
This is a 2001 that was a factory fit. I think tomorrow I'll be getting the grinder out & removing a little steel to see what's what.
I've had a look inside & I don't see owt :-\
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on an Estate? I've found double sided sticky tape, but there's something more solid stopping it from coming off :'(
The early PFL Irmscher Eatate spoilers also had two bolts holding it on from memory, should be able to access the stud bolts from inside the tailgate.
Thank you to you both.
This is a 2001 that was a factory fit. I think tomorrow I'll be getting the grinder out & removing a little steel to see what's what.
I've had a look inside & I don't see owt :-\
If its 2001 factory it should have Prodrive fitted, not Irmscher, if so then just stuck on, and a pig to get off IIH.
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on an Estate? I've found double sided sticky tape, but there's something more solid stopping it from coming off :'(
The early PFL Irmscher Eatate spoilers also had two bolts holding it on from memory, should be able to access the stud bolts from inside the tailgate.
Thank you to you both.
This is a 2001 that was a factory fit. I think tomorrow I'll be getting the grinder out & removing a little steel to see what's what.
I've had a look inside & I don't see owt :-\
If its 2001 factory it should have Prodrive fitted, not Irmscher, if so then just stuck on, and a pig to get off IIH.
It has Irmscher embossed on the side or some where :y
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on an Estate? I've found double sided sticky tape, but there's something more solid stopping it from coming off :'(
The early PFL Irmscher Eatate spoilers also had two bolts holding it on from memory, should be able to access the stud bolts from inside the tailgate.
Thank you to you both.
This is a 2001 that was a factory fit. I think tomorrow I'll be getting the grinder out & removing a little steel to see what's what.
I've had a look inside & I don't see owt :-\
If its 2001 factory it should have Prodrive fitted, not Irmscher, if so then just stuck on, and a pig to get off IIH.
It has Irmscher embossed on the side or some where :y
What the Estate Spec?, Elite, MV6 were Prodrive for that year, may have been ordered with an Irmscher?, any other Irmscher bits on it.
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Elite spec with full kit from factory to include, both bumpers (trim on bottom of tail gate), side skirts, grille & rear spoiler.
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Estate tailgate spoilers are bonded from the factory with a windscreen type adhesive. I can't see there being any difference between Prodrive and Irmscher versions in that respect. If, however, it has been fitted at a later date, then it could be stuck on with anything.
In my experience, I've never come across a spoiler that has any bolts or screws holding it in place, however prefacelift/mini-facelift ones do have 2 metal locating studs (1 at either end) that fit in holes in the the tailgate. These can be a pig if you are trying to cheesewire through the glue, as they will cause the wire to snap. Facelifts do not have these studs.
They can be removed, although a large mug of patience is required.
HTH :y
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Elite spec with full kit from factory to include, both bumpers (trim on bottom of tail gate), side skirts, grille & rear spoiler.
Ok that makes sense now, so will be Irmscher, but I have no idea whether they were just stuck on and or bolted.
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Thank you Twig :y :y
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Thank you Twig :y :y
No worries Pete. :y Out of interest, where did you pick this one up from? Anywhere near Norwich?
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Thank you Twig :y :y
No worries Pete. :y Out of interest, where did you pick this one up from? Anywhere near Norwich?
No mate. Quite close to me infact.
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Estate tailgate spoilers are bonded from the factory with a windscreen type adhesive. I can't see there being any difference between Prodrive and Irmscher versions in that respect. If, however, it has been fitted at a later date, then it could be stuck on with anything.
In my experience, I've never come across a spoiler that has any bolts or screws holding it in place, however prefacelift/mini-facelift ones do have 2 metal locating studs (1 at either end) that fit in holes in the the tailgate. These can be a pig if you are trying to cheesewire through the glue, as they will cause the wire to snap. Facelifts do not have these studs.
They can be removed, although a large mug of patience is required.
HTH :y
Had one off a PFL V6 Tourer Estate James, had either M5 or M6 stud bolts aswell as glue, strangely it also had the Leather Badged Recaro Buckets seats fitted that were mainly only fitted to the EU Opels, maybe made at a different factory? :-\
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Thought they were all built at Russelheim :-\
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Thought they were all built at Russelheim :-\
Maybe they had a Fitters Strike on that day and the Managers rolled thier sleves up and did the job properly? ;)
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Estate tailgate spoilers are bonded from the factory with a windscreen type adhesive. I can't see there being any difference between Prodrive and Irmscher versions in that respect. If, however, it has been fitted at a later date, then it could be stuck on with anything.
In my experience, I've never come across a spoiler that has any bolts or screws holding it in place, however prefacelift/mini-facelift ones do have 2 metal locating studs (1 at either end) that fit in holes in the the tailgate. These can be a pig if you are trying to cheesewire through the glue, as they will cause the wire to snap. Facelifts do not have these studs.
They can be removed, although a large mug of patience is required.
HTH :y
Had one off a PFL V6 Tourer Estate James, had either M5 or M6 stud bolts aswell as glue, strangely it also had the Leather Badged Recaro Buckets seats fitted that were mainly only fitted to the EU Opels, maybe made at a different factory? :-\
In that case I would suspect that these bolts would be instead of the location studs, and would pass through the standard holes in the PFL tailgate. In any case, it would be very easy to see the bolt heads with the tailgate open. :y
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Spoiler now removed.
Took much patience, three retractable blades, a screwdriver & wedge. Was stuck on with a good amount of bonding sealant.
I'd say it took me around two hours of very slowly cutting & moving up with the wedges.
It has two threaded bolt holes that look like M8, but they're no were near the holes for the wires & screen washer pipe so not much use. Though for fitting & removal at later dates I have a cunning plan ;)
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So what's the plan then Pete? I assume you are bolting all the Irmscher and elite bits to your DTi?
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So what's the plan then Pete? I assume you are bolting all the Irmscher and elite bits to your DTi?
No such plan mate. The DTi's a saloon :)
I purchased the Elite Estate knowing it needed a little TLC, it had been looked after service wise, but needed a new tail gate (dreaded tin worm) a good clean & polish, there's a few scuffs, scratches & trolley dings to sort.
The story is that a Midwife bought the Elite with full Irmscher kit on from new, kept the car for three years & then gave it back to VX, because she couldn't afford the fuel (stop start, stop start as Midwifes do). Then Simon purchased her in 2003/2004 & kept her since (he was very sad to see her leave).
I got her with all intention of getting her back to a very presentable state, so a tail gate was purchased (I took a chance with one the same colour which paid off, the shade match is bang on) (hence the swap over of Irmy parts), carpets & some other bits.
She needed cam cover gaskets & alternator wasn't charging (both done now). Next is to do is the cam belt & LPG, then get her on the road.
So there will be a DTi up for sale sometime in the near future & after what's fast approaching five years of ownership, I shall be very sad to see him go :'( :'( :'( :'(
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So what's the plan then Pete? I assume you are bolting all the Irmscher and elite bits to your DTi?
No such plan mate. The DTi's a saloon :)
I purchased the Elite Estate knowing it needed a little TLC, it had been looked after service wise, but needed a new tail gate (dreaded tin worm) a good clean & polish, there's a few scuffs, scratches & trolley dings to sort.
The story is that a Midwife bought the Elite with full Irmscher kit on from new, kept the car for three years & then gave it back to VX, because she couldn't afford the fuel (stop start, stop start as Midwifes do). Then Simon purchased her in 2003/2004 & kept her since (he was very sad to see her leave).
I got her with all intention of getting her back to a very presentable state, so a tail gate was purchased (I took a chance with one the same colour which paid off, the shade match is bang on) (hence the swap over of Irmy parts), carpets & some other bits.
She needed cam cover gaskets & alternator wasn't charging (both done now). Next is to do is the cam belt & LPG, then get her on the road.
So there will be a DTi up for sale sometime in the near future & after what's fast approaching five years of ownership, I shall be very sad to see him go :'( :'( :'( :'(
Doh!! :-[
Well I hope you have been taking lots of pictures Pete. I for one will be very interested to see the progress and end result! :y
Interesting the you class the estate as a girl, but the saloon as a boy... I wonder, is this something to do with the estate having a larger rear end... ;D :-X
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He's called Bertie Basset, because he looks like a licorice All Sort. Burt for short ;D
The estate's called Midnight after her colour & the Monaro's called Cloe, because she's big up front & beautiful :-* :P
Sorry I haven't taken any photos, I didn't think anyone would be interested :-[
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He's called Bertie Basset, because he looks like a licorice All Sort. Burt for short ;D
The estate's called Midnight after her colour & the Monaro's called Cloe, because she's big up front & beautiful :-* :P
Sorry I haven't taken any photos, I didn't think anyone would be interested :-[
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Definately get the camera out Pete! I'm certainly very interested, even if no-one else is. :y
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Just for you Twiggy :)
The old tail gate
The usual place for tin worm
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb369/xowasp/008-1.jpg)
Not the usual places
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb369/xowasp/007-2.jpg)
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb369/xowasp/006-3.jpg)
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb369/xowasp/005-2.jpg)
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb369/xowasp/002-5.jpg)
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb369/xowasp/001-3.jpg)
As you can see it's in a bad way :(
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And all your badges are upside down. ;)
:D ;D ;D
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Here's the rest of her
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb369/xowasp/016-1.jpg)
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb369/xowasp/015-1.jpg)
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb369/xowasp/014-1.jpg)
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb369/xowasp/013-1.jpg)
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb369/xowasp/012-1.jpg)
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb369/xowasp/011-1.jpg)
Spoiler fitted :)
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb369/xowasp/009-1.jpg)
One of the new tail gate missing the extra part at the bottom (it's in the back).
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb369/xowasp/010-1.jpg)
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And all your badges are upside down. ;)
:D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D PMSL :y