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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Jusme on 24 August 2012, 18:45:59
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Although I have the safety check report supplied by an approved LPG company, and my miggy having been insured by me previously simply by informing the insurer of the safety check. Now I have the miggy back I phoned Churchill to have the insurance swapped back. An over enthusiastic girl at Churchill asked me about my LPG Certificate, she checked the LPG register and told me that my miggy is not on the register, so the best she could do was insure the car 3rd party.. I contacted the person who carried out the safety check 3 years ago, received an e-mail back this evening telling me that all certificates are sent to LPGA. But he will check on my miggy 'next week'.. I've only waited SEVEN weeks to get my car back, 'don't ask' :o But for now it's back to swmbo's Rover :-[
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She was right.... :-[ :-[ What is a certificate of conformity and why do I need one?
Section 7 Para 7.2 of the COP 11 : 2001 states "that a competent person responsible for ensuring compliance with the Code of Practice and relevant Statutory Regulations should, upon satisfactory completion of all tuning and tests, issue a signed certificate of conformity for the purchaser". This will be required by most of the leading vehicle insurance companies who will need to be informed, along with the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Authority (Swansea) that the customer is running their vehicle on dual fuel LPG. Failure to do so may invalidate any insurance policy. If you are not sure on what to do or do not have the time then LPG-Cars will actually do the leg work for you. We will submit the correct documentation to the appropriate DVLA office so that you will get the updated V5 (vehicle log book) posted direct to you.
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I know a certified installer can certify your car after the fact so maybe that's the best way to go.
I have a friend in Thurrock (Essex) that can do it but I'm sure there must be an installer closer to you that will do it.
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Fairly sure that the certificate you have if issued by a LPGA member and is proper registration. If so, it's a case of sending proof to UKLPG (the LPGA's new name) and they will add it to the online register. Be warned... If you send the original cert and they lose it you will have no proof ;)
Find out more at www.drivelpg.co.uk
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Fairly sure that the certificate you have if issued by a LPGA member and is proper registration. If so, it's a case of sending proof to UKLPG (the LPGA's new name) and they will add it to the online register. Be warned... If you send the original cert and they lose it you will have no proof ;)
Find out more at www.drivelpg.co.uk
....I thought only cars converted after the web based register started had to be on the register? Not so it seems. :(
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recall similar issues when insurance was swapped from my name to MotherT's for the 2.2, same register issue so it was third party only. :(
Given its value, 3rd party is enough though
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Although I have the safety check report supplied by an approved LPG company, and my miggy having been insured by me previously simply by informing the insurer of the safety check. Now I have the miggy back I phoned Churchill to have the insurance swapped back. An over enthusiastic girl at Churchill asked me about my LPG Certificate, she checked the LPG register and told me that my miggy is not on the register, so the best she could do was insure the car 3rd party.. I contacted the person who carried out the safety check 3 years ago, received an e-mail back this evening telling me that all certificates are sent to LPGA. But he will check on my miggy 'next week'.. I've only waited SEVEN weeks to get my car back, 'don't ask' :o But for now it's back to swmbo's Rover :-[
If you've paid to have the car's lpg install checked by an 'Approved Installer' i.e. a member of the LPGA, then they are supposed (as part of the cost of the Inspection) to register your vehicle immediately online and issue you with a typed letter confirming this which you can then get copied to send to your Insurer and DVLA. :y
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It's my old car. It was certified with a safety cirt a few years ago. He's just trying to re insure the car to the same spec as last time, after a month or two un insured.
Edit . The web based register did not exist when the LPG was installed.
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It's my old car. It was certified with a safety cirt a few years ago. He's just trying to re insure the car to the same spec as last time, after a month or two un insured.
Edit . The web based register did not exist when the LPG was installed.
But IIRC it was an inspection by a LPGA Approved Installer, so should have been added to the register automatically ;)
To add to my previous post, if it is an Approved Safety Inspection then addition to the register will be done FOC :y
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It's my old car. It was certified with a safety cirt a few years ago. He's just trying to re insure the car to the same spec as last time, after a month or two un insured.
Edit . The web based register did not exist when the LPG was installed.
But IIRC it was an inspection by a LPGA Approved Installer, so should have been added to the register automatically ;)
To add to my previous post, if it is an Approved Safety Inspection then addition to the register will be done FOC :y
It was indeed. So does the op need to ring the the Approved inspector on the cirt and enquire why it's not on the data base...?
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It's my old car. It was certified with a safety cirt a few years ago. He's just trying to re insure the car to the same spec as last time, after a month or two un insured.
Edit . The web based register did not exist when the LPG was installed.
But IIRC it was an inspection by a LPGA Approved Installer, so should have been added to the register automatically ;)
To add to my previous post, if it is an Approved Safety Inspection then addition to the register will be done FOC :y
It was indeed. So does the op need to ring the the Approved inspector on the cirt and enquire why it's not on the data base...?
He already has ;) If he gets no joy there are instructions on the website I linked to ;)
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I must have another look at that website,as mine isnt on the database either. ::)
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Both my Omegas are on the register :D
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I must have another look at that website,as mine isnt on the database either. ::)
Not convinced yours is a LPGA certificate :-\ :-\ Certainly shouldn't be with the state it was in when it left the installer ::)
Both my Omegas are on the register :D
Mine's on there too :y
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I must have another look at that website,as mine isnt on the database either. ::)
Not convinced yours is a LPGA certificate :-\ :-\ Certainly shouldn't be with the state it was in when it left the installer ::)
Both my Omegas are on the register :D
Mine's on there too :y
Nor me,I will dig it out and have a closer look. :y My ins. compant have never asked any questions,so I havent been that bothered so far.
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I never mentioned it when I moved to Churchill, I thought as it states GasBi-Fuel on the log book insurers would know ?? Dunno why I should think that ?? :-\ When asked by insurers ' has the car/engine been modified' ? I always answer no, ' engine modified = tuned' in my book... Oooops ! Wrong again... :(
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my miggy went today to get her lpg system checked and put on the register. well as always there was something wrong have spent all afternoon and evening sorting out the back end moving the filler increasing the ventilation hole from the tank and tomorrow we need to move the gas line out the wheel arch and reroute acoupleof line in the engine bay. she should have her cert on tuesday.
i also have front disc and pads and wishbones to do tomorrow
weekend of grease and dirt for me :'( :'( hoping i get it all done tomorrow so can relax sunday.
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weekend of grease and dirt for me
I thought thats what you liked doing, marie, tinkering with anything mechanical?
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Update : 'Satisfactory Conclusion'.... Eventually. last Friday I e-mailed the company who carried out the safety check. They responded within a couple of hours asking if it was on a different registration number at the time of testing, as they had no record. I returned e-mail with details.
I also last Friday contacted by e-mail LPG UK giving them full details and copies of each page of the safety check. Phoned the tester yesterday and gave him the date of testing and sent copies of safety check. He said that as soon as he received the copies, if all was well with it, he could issue a certificate to LPG UK. for a payment of £12 + vat. He also told me that as the car was checked in May 2009 it was prior to the online register, and the certificate would have been given to the owner. He remembered because the cost at the time of testing was £98. but then in August the online register was implemented and testers had to pay £12 to LPG UK for the certificate and to include the vehicle on the register.
This morning received e-mail from LPG UK to tell me they had checked with the authorised tester and verified safety check, all was in order so if I sent the chassis No. they would add my miggy to the register.
Oh deep joy, now I can insure the old girl, and I've saved £13+... :y Perhaps this may be useful to others.
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Good Result....finally! ;D :y
I reckon it's all that Gixer guys fault, ask TB & he'll confirm he's a trouble maker ::) ;D ;)
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I don't think you should have been charged the £12 - but then the whole LPG 'body' is a club to keep incompitent installers' income high.
I'm sure that pre-database safety checks were supposed to be put on the register FOC
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I don't think you should have been charged the £12 - but then the whole LPG 'body' is a club to keep incompitent installers' income high.
I read it that he didn't pay :-\
And yes, you're right ;) ::)
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Apparently I was slightly previous ???
Sent: 29 August 2012 19:51
To: Autogas
Subject: RE:
Hello,
I e-mailed you earlier today immediately upon receipt of your e-mail, supplying the information you require.
I have checked continuously throughout the day to see if you have added my car to the register. As you are aware, you 'have not'.
Perhaps a small matter to yourselves, but I cannot insure my vehicle, therefore cannot drive it.
Are you regulated by any recognised authority ? As I would have thought this could be treated with some urgency as I made you aware of my situation.
Hopefully I will be mobile again tomorrow ? Let me assure you my disabled wife would be most grateful.
Regards.
Reply received at 8.22 this morning..
Dear Mr Xxxxxx
As in my previous email to you I was initially waiting on BPV for them to confirm with me.
They now have and you kindly provided your chassis. Therefore your car will be entered onto the register as soon as possible, 24 hours since my last email have not yet passed
I will email you confirmation
Best regards
Checked again whilst typing this :
Vehcile Register Search - BD XX XHM
This Vehicle , is not on the Register. Please follow the appropriate option below:
'Ah well'! 'Soon'...... perhaps ??
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If a non registered car is entered into the uklpg web site, the pop up states certified cars will be updated for free.
There's no mention of a time limit though, but Christ, how long does it take to type a reg no. ?
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Agreed Chris, probably as long as it took to type the e-mail ??? :-\
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Given any other car can be insured on the spot after a phone call, I'd say this is a fairly unacceptable situation tbh.
I might be contacting Bpv(or someone) for compensation myself. He should have updated his records, as I understand it?
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IT'S NOW ON THE REGISTER.
...just checked. :y
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Must give credit, when and where due. Just got e-mail :
Dear Mr XXXXX
I can confirm that your vehicle has been added to the UKLPG vehicle register. This is visible at www.drivelpg.co.uk.
Best regards,
Autogas Administration
UKLPG
www.drivelpg.co.uk - The independent consumer guide to LPG autogas in the UK.
Vehicle BD XX XHM, VAUXHALL, OMEGA has been placed on the Register.
An important part of the work of UKLPG is to inspect vehicles on the Register which are selected on a random basis. If you would be willing to have your vehicle considered for inspection please click here to register your details
This installation is by a UKLPG Approved Autogas Installer