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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: paul.lovejoy on 03 October 2012, 18:46:31
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the old chap that is currently working for me put petrol in his diesel van by mistake last weekend £20 worth
the van is a W reg 2.8 movano. he was advised to stick £60 of diesel in and told it would eventually work its way out.
The van used to pull like a train but at the moment is slow to accelerate although it is not missfiring at all.
any advice please
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They did an experiment on a motoring program a few years ago. They drained the tanks, put petrol in a diesel & visa versa.
They drove them till they conked. Filled the tanks with the correct fuel & all was good.
Brim it with diesel & it'll be ok :y
£20.00's only 3 gallon & in a twenty gallon tank. I wouldn't worry :)
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Speak to Lazytinker it's his job Paul :y
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Someone call? ::) :D
Paul, I'll PM you my number ;)
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Someone call? ::) :D
Paul, I'll PM you my number ;)
I hate saying this as you know... but your a good lad.. although you did fallout of the ugly tree, hitting every branch :-*
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I hate saying this as you know... but your a good lad.. although you did fallout of the ugly tree, hitting every branch :-*
No, Dazzle, you are confusing the useless Cripple with yourself :P
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PM recieved mucho grassy arse :y :y
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try millers diesel addative,works wonders :y
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Someone call? ::) :D
Paul, I'll PM you my number ;)
I hate saying this as you know... but your a good lad.. although you did fallout of the ugly tree, hitting every branch :-*
I still look handsome stood next to you though Dazzle ;) ;)They did an experiment on a motoring program a few years ago. They drained the tanks, put petrol in a diesel & visa versa.
They drove them till they conked. Filled the tanks with the correct fuel & all was good.
Brim it with diesel & it'll be ok :y
£20.00's only 3 gallon & in a twenty gallon tank. I wouldn't worry :)
On an older diesel engine I'd agree with you but on a modern, common rail system even as little as 10% petrol in the system can cause damage ;)
Modern, common rail engines use a high pressure pump with very small tolerances and rely on the lubrication from the diesel. Putting petrol, a solvent, through them is never good for them ;) On some makes you can get away with more but, unfortunately this isn't one of them ::)
The fact that it's still starting and running means he will probably get away with filling back up again and it will eventually clear. I'd also advise looking for a fuel system additive that lubricates (but doesn't clean!) the fuel system but I'm not aware of one that is available to the public. Ours is specially formulated for us and unique ;) It's also expensive ::)
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Paul & Paul. Please don't keep it to yourselves as to what to do :) :)
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Someone call? ::) :D
Paul, I'll PM you my number ;)
I hate saying this as you know... but your a good lad.. although you did fallout of the ugly tree, hitting every branch :-*
I still look handsome stood next to you though Dazzle ;) ;)They did an experiment on a motoring program a few years ago. They drained the tanks, put petrol in a diesel & visa versa.
They drove them till they conked. Filled the tanks with the correct fuel & all was good.
Brim it with diesel & it'll be ok :y
£20.00's only 3 gallon & in a twenty gallon tank. I wouldn't worry :)
On an older diesel engine I'd agree with you but on a modern, common rail system even as little as 10% petrol in the system can cause damage ;)
Modern, common rail engines use a high pressure pump with very small tolerances and rely on the lubrication from the diesel. Putting petrol, a solvent, through them is never good for them ;) On some makes you can get away with more but, unfortunately this isn't one of them ::)
The fact that it's still starting and running means he will probably get away with filling back up again and it will eventually clear. I'd also advise looking for a fuel system additive that lubricates (but doesn't clean!) the fuel system but I'm not aware of one that is available to the public. Ours is specially formulated for us and unique ;) It's also expensive ::)
Paul & Paul. Please don't keep it to yourselves as to what to do :) :)
Well that was quick ;D ;D ;D ;D
Would two stroke oil be ok as the lube you talk of. I use it in my DTi :y
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Loverlength... Empty your inbox ;)
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Yep... A bit of 2 stroke would be better than a kick in the nads :y :y
Not trying to be secretive, although I have quoted Paul a price which is why I've done it via PM ;)
Incidentally, I'm not advising he has it drained as they have managed to use most of the fuel in the tank anyway ;)
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Loverlength... Empty your inbox ;)
i have emptyed my self now :o :o took a while :y
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Loverlength... Empty your inbox ;)
i have emptyed my self now :o :o took a while :y
yeah its all that breakfast you eat..millwall will back me up here :y
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Loverlength... Empty your inbox ;)
i have emptyed my self now :o :o took a while :y
yeah its all that breakfast you eat..millwall will back me up here :y
i might have meant something else ;) i am full of milk at the moment :( :(
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I hate saying this as you know... but your a good lad.. although you did fallout of the ugly tree, hitting every branch :-*
No, Dazzle, you are confusing the useless Cripple with yourself :P
I thought they both fell from different branches of the ugly tree and landed on top of each other....hence the similar levels of break-uglyness!
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I hate saying this as you know... but your a good lad.. although you did fallout of the ugly tree, hitting every branch :-*
No, Dazzle, you are confusing the useless Cripple with yourself :P
I thought they both fell from different branches of the ugly tree and landed on top of each other....hence the similar levels of break-uglyness!
Love you too Guffers :-* :-* :-*
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Wont be an issue in the 2.8 Dti Mopvano as its a standard distributor style injection pump and not common rail
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Wont be an issue in the 2.8 Dti Mopvano as its a standard distributor style injection pump and not common rail
I thought it was but wasn't 100% certain ;)
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thanks guys that will put his mind at ease :y :y :y
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I think you will be lucky. My brother in law has two cars. A scenic (petrol) and a '04 plate vectra estate (diesel ) He went to local Tesco superstore in his vectra and spent £70 on shopping and got a 10p a litre off fuel voucher. He decided top put some fuel in the vectra on the way out and put £40 worth in. As he put the pump nozzle back into the pump he realised he had put £40 worth of petrol in instead of diesel. He didn't attempt to start the car and pushed it over to a parking bay on the forecourt, went to pay for the fuel, and rang the AA. After some discussion with them he agreed to pay £175 for them to come out and pump out his fuel tank. Apparently this is becoming a common occurence and they have specialy adapted vehiciles to pump out the wrong fuel and take it away. This they did and he then was advised to fill up with diesel straight away. Turned out to be a bloody expensive shopping trip!
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I think you will be lucky. My brother in law has two cars. A scenic (petrol) and a '04 plate vectra estate (diesel ) He went to local Tesco superstore in his vectra and spent £70 on shopping and got a 10p a litre off fuel voucher. He decided top put some fuel in the vectra on the way out and put £40 worth in. As he put the pump nozzle back into the pump he realised he had put £40 worth of petrol in instead of diesel. He didn't attempt to start the car and pushed it over to a parking bay on the forecourt, went to pay for the fuel, and rang the AA. After some discussion with them he agreed to pay £175 for them to come out and pump out his fuel tank. Apparently this is becoming a common occurence and they have specialy adapted vehiciles to pump out the wrong fuel and take it away. This they did and he then was advised to fill up with diesel straight away. Turned out to be a bloody expensive shopping trip!
Should have rang Lazydocker and get OOF discount....... :y :y :y
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I think you will be lucky. My brother in law has two cars. A scenic (petrol) and a '04 plate vectra estate (diesel ) He went to local Tesco superstore in his vectra and spent £70 on shopping and got a 10p a litre off fuel voucher. He decided top put some fuel in the vectra on the way out and put £40 worth in. As he put the pump nozzle back into the pump he realised he had put £40 worth of petrol in instead of diesel. He didn't attempt to start the car and pushed it over to a parking bay on the forecourt, went to pay for the fuel, and rang the AA. After some discussion with them he agreed to pay £175 for them to come out and pump out his fuel tank. Apparently this is becoming a common occurence and they have specialy adapted vehiciles to pump out the wrong fuel and take it away. This they did and he then was advised to fill up with diesel straight away. Turned out to be a bloody expensive shopping trip!
It is a common occurrence... That's why I have set up a business providing the service he received from the AA for less money and more quickly :y Incidentally, he was lucky... £175 is very cheap from the AA (their prices normally start at £220+VAT :o), although I bet he was kept waiting for a fair while ::) We're cheaper and normally out within the hour :y
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By common, I think it's now about once every 2.5 minutes nationwide :o :o Although not all of those occurrences are of a large enough quantity to require draining ;)
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By common, I think it's now about once every 2.5 minutes nationwide :o :o Although not all of those occurrences are of a large enough quantity to require draining ;)
That sounds pretty common to me..... :o :o :o
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This has reminded me LD,I need to speak to you againa bout acquiring some of that misfuel. ;)
I now know why I would need it. :)
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This has reminded me LD,I need to speak to you againa bout acquiring some of that misfuel. ;)
I now know why I would need it. :)
No worries :y
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This has reminded me LD,I need to speak to you againa bout acquiring some of that misfuel. ;)
I now know why I would need it. :)
are you selling second hand fuel now :D :D 1 carefull owner
latest update van is still running and starting fine but womnt go above 3000 revs someone has advised him that the ecu has gone into safe mode and will need resetting ???
he has now filled the tank right up and await an update tomorrow, incidentilally it was not £20 but £10 of petrol he origonally put in
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I note that there is a device now that is integrated into the petrol pump which sniffs the fuel tank before delivering the fuel. Sounds like a good idea, question is do the fuel companies want to to stop fuel miss delivery.
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Paul... If only £10 it will be fine :y
Mark... Really? Not heard of that one, although if they are fitted to pumps already they don't work ::) Just like the devices you can buy or standard fit on Jag/LR, Ford and BMW ::) :D
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Paul... If only £10 it will be fine :y
Mark... Really? Not heard of that one, although if they are fitted to pumps already they don't work ::) Just like the devices you can buy or standard fit on Jag/LR, Ford and BMW ::) :D
Not fitted yet, its an EC research project which has just been completed.
Very simple to do apparantly using SAW filters, there looking for a big player to start roll out.
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Paul... If only £10 it will be fine :y
Mark... Really? Not heard of that one, although if they are fitted to pumps already they don't work ::) Just like the devices you can buy or standard fit on Jag/LR, Ford and BMW ::) :D
Not fitted yet, its an EC research project which has just been completed.
Very simple to do apparantly using SAW filters, there looking for a big player to start roll out.
In the nicest possible way, I hope they don't go ahead :-X ::)
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I allways thought during winter time they put a percentage of petrol into diesel to stop it waxing. Or they have come up with some alternative these days ?