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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: STMO123 on 22 March 2013, 12:21:18
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Sellafield nuclear power station is shutting down because of the weather conditions ;D
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http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21893435
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all over a bit of snow and they shut it down..why
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Talk of a hosepipe ban here in the next few days ... apparently ... (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/43954633/rofl.gif)
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It rather kills me every year. I just heard someone one the radio say "Oh, it's really bad out there, we have 2cm of snow on the ground. I can't see us getting out at all this weekend, it's terrible"
FFS, find your testicles and go out and shovel those poxy 2cm of snow away. Then you can get you car out, go to the shops and pretty much do anything you want. It grips my sh!t when a small amount of snow disables this country when it shouldn't come anywhere near to doing so. Plus I hate it when it seems like it's a rather surprise that we get snow and flooding in the country.
Sorry rant over >:(
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My wife gets calls every time it snows saying that people are snowed in. She has to travel from Wakefield to Sheffield and she's getting a call from someone who lives a mile away. She tells them to walk to the end of the street and they will usually find the main roads clear. If you just look out of the window you're not gonna go anywhere......ever.
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My wife gets calls every time it snows saying that people are snowed in. She has to travel from Wakefield to Sheffield and she's getting a call from someone who lives a mile away. She tells them to walk to the end of the street and they will usually find the main roads clear. If you just look out of the window you're not gonna go anywhere......ever.
I hope in such conditions, you do a complete written H&S risk assessment and submit it in triplicate to the authorities for approval. :P :o :o :o
In countries like the Ukraine, H&S and risk assessment consists of: Common sense and get on with the effing job. I personally can't see anything wrong with this approach. :y :y :y
Unfortunately, this does not fit in with the socialist mantra in the UK of their constant interference in our lives and the building of their grubby little empires, all at our expense. >:( >:( >:(
Somebody, I know is just having their flat garage roof replaced and where the top three layers of bricks are frost damaged this is going to be rebuild. A few years a go as it is single story a brickie would just use a trestle, now it has to be scaffolding. >:( >:( >:(
When it snows in winter in the Ukraine, they are not surprised even though some years they have little snow, other years it can be a lot. This year they have only had two lots of heavy snow fall, on both occasions about 1m. The first caught them out a bit as it was mid-December and extra snow clearance people aren't employed and on standby until January, so it took longer than usual to get back to normal, about 36 hours, the second time a few hours in the morning and everything was back to normal. In heavy snow teachers are expected to be at school as normal. :y :y :y
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Of course .. the "negatives" looking for a headline have side stepped the reason for the closure ...
Sellafield Ltd said the move, which came as snow and high winds affected Cumbria, was to allow staff to leave early and get home safely.
It said the shutdown was nothing to do with the work at the site and there were no safety issues.
Spokesman Karl Connor said: "This is purely a safety issue because of the high winds and snow we want our 8,500 workers to go early and get home safely."
Seems quite reasonable to me to try and get your workers home safely, especially if it can be done easily, which apparently is the case for the re-processing plant.
However, no headline in a caring company looking out for its workers is there ??? :) :)
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If they shut down at a drop of a hat for 'safety' issues in a bit of bad weather, it makes me wonder how they will cope with all the extra nuclear waste that the UK will be producing in a few years time..... :-\
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If they shut down at a drop of a hat for 'safety' issues in a bit of bad weather, it makes me wonder how they will cope with all the extra nuclear waste that the UK will be producing in a few years time..... :-\
Do you read the previous post before posting?.... ::) ::) :P :P :D :D
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I don't have a problem with workforce safety, but it does seem to me to be set at a much lower threshold than most other countries, I bet the Scandinavians are wondering what all the fuss is about. ::) ::) ::)
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If they shut down at a drop of a hat for 'safety' issues in a bit of bad weather, it makes me wonder how they will cope with all the extra nuclear waste that the UK will be producing in a few years time..... :-\
If they start building some thorium fast breeder reactors, there will be no waste. :y :y :y :y
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If they shut down at a drop of a hat for 'safety' issues in a bit of bad weather, it makes me wonder how they will cope with all the extra nuclear waste that the UK will be producing in a few years time..... :-\
Do you read the previous post before posting?.... ::) ::) :P :P :D :D
Of course Vamps! ::) Maybe you missed my point.... :-\
If eventually we do build all of these nuclear power stations that are planned, the result will be a lot more nuclear waste to be processed which won't happen if they keep shutting the place down. In my opinion processing this waste and making it safe is a vital industry and that plant should be kept operating come hell or high water. It makes you wonder how we'd cope in this country if there was ever another large scale war.... ::)
Rods, we both know that that they won't be building any sort of cutting edge nuclear technology in this country because it will be deemed too expensive, so we'll build the cheaper decades old designs that produce waste that remains radioactive for centuries..... :(
Our Great great grandchildren will be dealing with all this highly toxic waste that we've buried, because we don't know what else to do with it, and will wonder what the hell we were thinking...... :o
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If they shut down at a drop of a hat for 'safety' issues in a bit of bad weather, it makes me wonder how they will cope with all the extra nuclear waste that the UK will be producing in a few years time..... :-\
Do you read the previous post before posting?.... ::) ::) :P :P :D :D
Of course Vamps! ::) Maybe you missed my point.... :-\
If eventually we do build all of these nuclear power stations that are planned, the result will be a lot more nuclear waste to be processed which won't happen if they keep shutting the place down. In my opinion processing this waste and making it safe is a vital industry and that plant should be kept operating come hell or high water. It makes you wonder how we'd cope in this country if there was ever another large scale war.... ::)
Rods, we both know that that they won't be building any sort of cutting edge nuclear technology in this country because it will be deemed too expensive, so we'll build the cheaper decades old designs that produce waste that remains radioactive for centuries..... :(
Have a look at this EDF website and their brochure on the design and building of the new Hinkley C Plant. Your fears, and that of others on the OOF, should be resolved by reading all the detail. No old technology, but bang up to date design.
http://www.edfenergy.com/about-us/energy-generation/new-nuclear/hinkley-point-c/book/book/index.html#/16/zoomed
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It rather kills me every year. I just heard someone one the radio say "Oh, it's really bad out there, we have 2cm of snow on the ground. I can't see us getting out at all this weekend, it's terrible"
FFS, find your testicles and go out and shovel those poxy 2cm of snow away. Then you can get you car out, go to the shops and pretty much do anything you want. It grips my sh!t when a small amount of snow disables this country when it shouldn't come anywhere near to doing so. Plus I hate it when it seems like it's a rather surprise that we get snow and flooding in the country.
Sorry rant over >:(
LOL, my thoughts exactly. :y :y :y
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Have a look at this EDF website and their brochure on the design and building of the new Hinkley C Plant. Your fears, and that of others on the OOF, should be resolved by reading all the detail. No old technology, but bang up to date design.
Far from it Lizzie! ::)
Pressurised Water Reactors have been around since the 1950's and indeed the 1979 nuclear accident at Three Mile Island in the US involved a Pressurised Water Reactor. I accept however that a 1950's PWR is a different beast to the modern European Pressurised Reactors that are proposed for Britain, but the principles remain the same in the same way that a 1950's Ford Prefect is very different to a 2013 Ford Focus, but they both have a steering wheel, 3 pedals and a lever!! ;)
You might find this article from Wikipedia more enlightening than EDF's sales brochure. A sorry tale of construction delays and budget overuns involving EDF and Areva....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Pressurized_Reactor
Like any heavy industry, nuclear power generation is subject to human error and systems failure, however the results of a major incident at a nuclear power plant can be rather more catastrophic. :o Even a minor incident can have serious consequences... :-\
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_accidents_by_country
My main problem with nuclear power remains the waste issue and the fact that we've yet to find a better way of dealing with it than burying it deep deep underground for future generations to find and deal with. Hopefully our Great great grandchildren will find a use for it.... :-\
Page 20 of EDF's sales brochure admits the UK still needs to find a long term solution for radioactive waste accumulated over past decades, but that the solution will be a 'Geological Storage Facility' (ie Bloody great Hole in the ground) and the government has yet to identify a suitable site.... :( So what the hell are they doing with all this stuff? Is it all lying around at Sellafield?? :o and they thought it was the Northern Lights over Cumbria!! ;D
Finally it has been estimated that it will cost approximately £70 billion to decommission Britain's remaining nuclear power stations :o and again one of the decommissioning methods is to encase the reactor in concrete and leave it until it is safe.... :-\
Sorry Lizzie but it'll take more than a slick brochure to convince me that nuclear power is the answer to our energy problems! ;)
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If they shut down at a drop of a hat for 'safety' issues in a bit of bad weather, it makes me wonder how they will cope with all the extra nuclear waste that the UK will be producing in a few years time..... :-\
Do you read the previous post before posting?.... ::) ::) :P :P :D :D
Of course Vamps! ::) Maybe you missed my point.... :-\
If eventually we do build all of these nuclear power stations that are planned, the result will be a lot more nuclear waste to be processed which won't happen if they keep shutting the place down. In my opinion processing this waste and making it safe is a vital industry and that plant should be kept operating come hell or high water. It makes you wonder how we'd cope in this country if there was ever another large scale war.... ::)
Rods, we both know that that they won't be building any sort of cutting edge nuclear technology in this country because it will be deemed too expensive, so we'll build the cheaper decades old designs that produce waste that remains radioactive for centuries..... :(
Have a look at this EDF website and their brochure on the design and building of the new Hinkley C Plant. Your fears, and that of others on the OOF, should be resolved by reading all the detail. No old technology, but bang up to date design.
http://www.edfenergy.com/about-us/energy-generation/new-nuclear/hinkley-point-c/book/book/index.html#/16/zoomed
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The opening paragraph put my mind at rest "world class team including from Heathrow Termnal 5". Loading of the fuel will go smoothly then. :o :o :o :o
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The opening paragraph put my mind at rest "world class team including from Heathrow Termnal 5". Loading of the fuel will go smoothly then. :o :o :o :o
Yes, I'm sure a baggage tag on each fuel rod will see it delivered where it needs to be. ;D
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Have a look at this EDF website and their brochure on the design and building of the new Hinkley C Plant. Your fears, and that of others on the OOF, should be resolved by reading all the detail. No old technology, but bang up to date design.
Far from it Lizzie! ::)
Pressurised Water Reactors have been around since the 1950's and indeed the 1979 nuclear accident at Three Mile Island in the US involved a Pressurised Water Reactor. I accept however that a 1950's PWR is a different beast to the modern European Pressurised Reactors that are proposed for Britain, but the principles remain the same in the same way that a 1950's Ford Prefect is very different to a 2013 Ford Focus, but they both have a steering wheel, 3 pedals and a lever!! ;)
You might find this article from Wikipedia more enlightening than EDF's sales brochure. A sorry tale of construction delays and budget overuns involving EDF and Areva....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Pressurized_Reactor
Like any heavy industry, nuclear power generation is subject to human error and systems failure, however the results of a major incident at a nuclear power plant can be rather more catastrophic. :o Even a minor incident can have serious consequences... :-\
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_accidents_by_country
My main problem with nuclear power remains the waste issue and the fact that we've yet to find a better way of dealing with it than burying it deep deep underground for future generations to find and deal with. Hopefully our Great great grandchildren will find a use for it.... :-\
Page 20 of EDF's sales brochure admits the UK still needs to find a long term solution for radioactive waste accumulated over past decades, but that the solution will be a 'Geological Storage Facility' (ie Bloody great Hole in the ground) and the government has yet to identify a suitable site.... :( So what the hell are they doing with all this stuff? Is it all lying around at Sellafield?? :o and they thought it was the Northern Lights over Cumbria!! ;D
Finally it has been estimated that it will cost approximately £70 billion to decommission Britain's remaining nuclear power stations :o and again one of the decommissioning methods is to encase the reactor in concrete and leave it until it is safe.... :-\
Sorry Lizzie but it'll take more than a slick brochure to convince me that nuclear power is the answer to our energy problems! ;)
Oh well TigerHayes, if you believe what is on wikipedia and live in the past with what nuclear power used to be, then I am not going to convince you ::) ::) ;)
It is like not using the trains, or planes, when you can quote all the accidents that happened in the past and not realise these are different days with different ways.
Nuclear is the only way to go! :y :y :y
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Lizzie if you are taken in by a slick and glossy sales brochure produced by a company that stands to make £Billions from building nuclear power stations in the UK, then yes we'll have to agree to disagree. :)
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Lizzie if you are taken in by a slick and glossy sales brochure produced by a company that stands to make £Billions from building nuclear power stations in the UK, then yes we'll have to agree to disagree. :)
A brochure that is available to all, including nuclear experts that know a lot more than you or me. Don't you think they would have far more detail on the proposed build and comment strongly if they believed it was all wrong? ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
Of course they would and EDF would never get away with it in a very competitive market place :D :D ;)
But of course, as I have stated before, it is far better to be negative and gloomy about everything when posting on the OOF. Like the press, well the Daily Mail and Daily Express, it makes for good copy! ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Lizzie if you are taken in by a slick and glossy sales brochure produced by a company that stands to make £Billions from building nuclear power stations in the UK, then yes we'll have to agree to disagree. :)
A brochure that is available to all, including nuclear experts that know a lot more than you or me. Don't you think they would have far more detail on the proposed build and comment strongly if they believed it was all wrong? ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
Of course they would and EDF would never get away with it in a very competitive market place :D :D ;)
But of course, as I have stated before, it is far better to be negative and gloomy about everything when posting on the OOF. Like the press, well the Daily Mail and Daily Express, it makes for good copy! ::) ::) ::) ::)
No doubt all given some money in exchange for their comments ::)
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We have had a nuke down here at Dungeness for the last 50 years and there has never been a serious problem with them just a small fire on the CONVENTIONAL side that did not cause any leak from the reactors. :y :y Most people here want a new one. :y :y :y
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Lizzie if you are taken in by a slick and glossy sales brochure produced by a company that stands to make £Billions from building nuclear power stations in the UK, then yes we'll have to agree to disagree. :)
A brochure that is available to all, including nuclear experts that know a lot more than you or me. Don't you think they would have far more detail on the proposed build and comment strongly if they believed it was all wrong? ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
Of course they would and EDF would never get away with it in a very competitive market place :D :D ;)
But of course, as I have stated before, it is far better to be negative and gloomy about everything when posting on the OOF. Like the press, well the Daily Mail and Daily Express, it makes for good copy! ::) ::) ::) ::)
No doubt all given some money in exchange for their comments ::)
Oh, of course Tunnie, let's now go for the conspiracy theory! ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Why are we so cynical on the OOF, without any proof? :o :o :o :o :o
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It is very reassuring that they are going ahead with the nuclear power station as it should solve all of our energy problems.
Currently electricity from Gas and Coal costs £40 to £50 a megawatt, so we will only be paying double that for nuclear. :o :o :o
Secondly, most of our coal fired power stations will be shutting in the next few months and this will be taking over to keep the lights on, where EDF aim to have in finished in 10 years from when they dig the first shovel of dirt. :o :o :o :o
There is foolishness, stupidity and insanity and the UK energy policy. >:( >:( >:( >:(
Thank god, I'm leaving. :y :y :y :y
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Lizzie if you are taken in by a slick and glossy sales brochure produced by a company that stands to make £Billions from building nuclear power stations in the UK, then yes we'll have to agree to disagree. :)
A brochure that is available to all, including nuclear experts that know a lot more than you or me. Don't you think they would have far more detail on the proposed build and comment strongly if they believed it was all wrong? ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
Of course they would and EDF would never get away with it in a very competitive market place :D :D ;)
But of course, as I have stated before, it is far better to be negative and gloomy about everything when posting on the OOF. Like the press, well the Daily Mail and Daily Express, it makes for good copy! ::) ::) ::) ::)
The brochure is very glossy and has some nice photos and a healthy smattering of spin quotes from politicians, but actually contains very little in the way of information about the reactor and power station itself. ::) It does however wax lyrical about the economic benefits that the build will bring to Somerset and the South West, this I don't dispute! ;)
The thing that I find ironic about our newly found enthusiasm for nuclear power, is that while we are closing down those nasty polluting coal power stations (which I read recently have 20 years of life left in them! ::)) we are planning to build a new generation of 'clean' nuclear energy plants which is true in terms of CO2 emissions, but the waste products that they do emit have to be kept in cooling ponds for around 50 years before it is safe to handle, after which will be buried deep deep underground where it will take about 1000 years for the radioactivity to decay to levels similar to raw uranium from the mine! :o That's clean??? :-\
Thankfully in percentage terms major nuclear incidents are rare compared to the amount of plants operating around the world, but one incident major or minor is one two many!! The Japanese government recently said that Fukushima will take 40 years and $13 billion dollars to clean up, but admitted that it may take longer and cost more, so draw your own conclusions.... ::) Of the 160,000 people evacuated from the 30km evacuation zone around 100,000 are still not allowed home because of dangerous radioactivity levels..... :(
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It is very reassuring that they are going ahead with the nuclear power station as it should solve all of our energy problems.
Currently electricity from Gas and Coal costs £40 to £50 a megawatt, so we will only be paying double that for nuclear. :o :o :o
Secondly, most of our coal fired power stations will be shutting in the next few months and this will be taking over to keep the lights on, where EDF aim to have in finished in 10 20 years and will cost twice as much as initial estimates, from when they dig the first shovel of dirt. :o :o :o :o
There is foolishness, stupidity and insanity and the UK energy policy. >:( >:( >:( >:(
Thank god, I'm leaving. :y :y :y :y
Amended for you Rods! ;)
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what do you mean its falling apart we never had one to fall apart in the 1st place :( :( :(