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[Sir Tigger KC]

Have a look at this EDF website and their brochure on the design and building of the new Hinkley C Plant.  Your fears, and that of others on the OOF, should be resolved by reading all the detail. No old technology, but bang up to date design.

Far from it Lizzie! 

Pressurised Water Reactors have been around since the 1950's and indeed the 1979 nuclear accident at Three Mile Island in the US involved a Pressurised Water Reactor.  I accept however that a 1950's PWR is a different beast to the modern European Pressurised Reactors that are proposed for Britain, but the principles remain the same in the same way that a 1950's Ford Prefect is very different to a 2013 Ford Focus, but they both have a steering wheel, 3 pedals and a lever!! 

You might find this article from Wikipedia more enlightening than EDF's sales brochure.  A sorry tale of construction delays and budget overuns involving EDF and Areva....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Pressurized_Reactor

Like any heavy industry, nuclear power generation is subject to human error and systems failure, however the results of a major incident at a nuclear power plant can be rather more catastrophic.    Even a minor incident can have serious consequences... 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_accidents_by_country

My main problem with nuclear power remains the waste issue and the fact that we've yet to find a better way of dealing with it than burying it deep deep underground for future generations to find and deal with.  Hopefully our Great great grandchildren will find a use for it.... 

Page 20 of EDF's sales brochure admits the UK still needs to find a long term solution for radioactive waste accumulated over past decades, but that the solution will be a 'Geological Storage Facility' (ie Bloody great Hole in the ground) and the government has yet to identify a suitable site....     So what the hell are they doing with all this stuff? Is it all lying around at Sellafield??  and they thought it was the Northern Lights over Cumbria!! 

Finally it has been estimated that it will cost approximately £70 billion to decommission Britain's remaining nuclear power stations    and again one of the decommissioning methods is to encase the reactor in concrete and leave it until it is safe....   

Sorry Lizzie but it'll take more than a slick brochure to convince me that nuclear power is the answer to our energy problems! 

[Rods2]

If they shut down at a drop of a hat for 'safety' issues in a bit of bad weather, it makes me wonder how they will cope with all the extra nuclear waste that the UK will be producing in a few years time..... 

Do you read the previous post before posting?....

Of course Vamps!    Maybe you missed my point.... 

If eventually we do build all of these nuclear power stations that are planned, the result will be a lot more nuclear waste to be processed which won't happen if they keep shutting the place down.  In my opinion processing this waste and making it safe is a vital industry and that plant should be kept operating come hell or high water.  It makes you wonder how we'd cope in this country if there was ever another large scale war.... 

Rods, we both know that that they won't be building any sort of cutting edge nuclear technology in this country because it will be deemed too expensive, so we'll build the cheaper decades old designs that produce waste that remains radioactive for centuries..... 

Have a look at this EDF website and their brochure on the design and building of the new Hinkley C Plant.  Your fears, and that of others on the OOF, should be resolved by reading all the detail. No old technology, but bang up to date design.

http://www.edfenergy.com/about-us/energy-generation/new-nuclear/hinkley-point-c/book/book/index.html#/16/zoomed

 

The opening paragraph put my mind at rest "world class team including from Heathrow Termnal 5". Loading of the fuel will go smoothly then. 

[Kevin Wood]

The opening paragraph put my mind at rest "world class team including from Heathrow Termnal 5". Loading of the fuel will go smoothly then. 

Yes, I'm sure a baggage tag on each fuel rod will see it delivered where it needs to be.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Have a look at this EDF website and their brochure on the design and building of the new Hinkley C Plant.  Your fears, and that of others on the OOF, should be resolved by reading all the detail. No old technology, but bang up to date design.

Far from it Lizzie! 

Pressurised Water Reactors have been around since the 1950's and indeed the 1979 nuclear accident at Three Mile Island in the US involved a Pressurised Water Reactor.  I accept however that a 1950's PWR is a different beast to the modern European Pressurised Reactors that are proposed for Britain, but the principles remain the same in the same way that a 1950's Ford Prefect is very different to a 2013 Ford Focus, but they both have a steering wheel, 3 pedals and a lever!! 

You might find this article from Wikipedia more enlightening than EDF's sales brochure.  A sorry tale of construction delays and budget overuns involving EDF and Areva....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Pressurized_Reactor

Like any heavy industry, nuclear power generation is subject to human error and systems failure, however the results of a major incident at a nuclear power plant can be rather more catastrophic.    Even a minor incident can have serious consequences... 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_accidents_by_country

My main problem with nuclear power remains the waste issue and the fact that we've yet to find a better way of dealing with it than burying it deep deep underground for future generations to find and deal with.  Hopefully our Great great grandchildren will find a use for it.... 

Page 20 of EDF's sales brochure admits the UK still needs to find a long term solution for radioactive waste accumulated over past decades, but that the solution will be a 'Geological Storage Facility' (ie Bloody great Hole in the ground) and the government has yet to identify a suitable site....     So what the hell are they doing with all this stuff? Is it all lying around at Sellafield??  and they thought it was the Northern Lights over Cumbria!! 

Finally it has been estimated that it will cost approximately £70 billion to decommission Britain's remaining nuclear power stations    and again one of the decommissioning methods is to encase the reactor in concrete and leave it until it is safe....   

Sorry Lizzie but it'll take more than a slick brochure to convince me that nuclear power is the answer to our energy problems!

Oh well TigerHayes, if you believe what is on wikipedia and live  in the past with what nuclear power used to be, then I am not going to convince you

It is like not using the trains, or planes, when you can quote all the accidents that happened in the past and not realise these are different days with different ways.

Nuclear is the only way to go!

[Sir Tigger KC]

Lizzie if you are taken in by a slick and glossy sales brochure produced by a company that stands to make £Billions from building nuclear power stations in the UK, then yes we'll have to agree to disagree.   

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Lizzie if you are taken in by a slick and glossy sales brochure produced by a company that stands to make £Billions from building nuclear power stations in the UK, then yes we'll have to agree to disagree.   

A brochure that is available to all, including nuclear experts that know a lot more than you or me.  Don't you think they would have far more detail on the proposed build and comment strongly if they believed it was all wrong?

Of course they would and EDF would never get away with it in a very competitive market place

But of course, as I have stated before, it is far better to be negative and gloomy about everything when posting on the OOF.  Like the press, well the Daily Mail and Daily Express, it makes for good copy!

[tunnie]

Lizzie if you are taken in by a slick and glossy sales brochure produced by a company that stands to make £Billions from building nuclear power stations in the UK, then yes we'll have to agree to disagree.   

A brochure that is available to all, including nuclear experts that know a lot more than you or me.  Don't you think they would have far more detail on the proposed build and comment strongly if they believed it was all wrong?

Of course they would and EDF would never get away with it in a very competitive market place

But of course, as I have stated before, it is far better to be negative and gloomy about everything when posting on the OOF.  Like the press, well the Daily Mail and Daily Express, it makes for good copy!

No doubt all given some money in exchange for their comments 

[kevinp58]

We have had a nuke down here at Dungeness for the last 50 years and there has never been a serious problem with them just a small fire on the CONVENTIONAL side that did not cause any leak from the reactors.  Most people here want a new one. 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Lizzie if you are taken in by a slick and glossy sales brochure produced by a company that stands to make £Billions from building nuclear power stations in the UK, then yes we'll have to agree to disagree.   

A brochure that is available to all, including nuclear experts that know a lot more than you or me.  Don't you think they would have far more detail on the proposed build and comment strongly if they believed it was all wrong?

Of course they would and EDF would never get away with it in a very competitive market place

But of course, as I have stated before, it is far better to be negative and gloomy about everything when posting on the OOF.  Like the press, well the Daily Mail and Daily Express, it makes for good copy!

No doubt all given some money in exchange for their comments

Oh, of course Tunnie, let's now go for the conspiracy theory!

Why are we so cynical on the OOF, without any proof?

[Rods2]

It is very reassuring that they are going ahead with the nuclear power station as it should solve all of our energy problems.

Currently electricity from Gas and Coal costs £40 to £50 a megawatt, so we will only be paying double that for nuclear. 

Secondly, most of our coal fired power stations will be shutting in the next few months and this will be taking over to keep the lights on, where EDF aim to have in finished in 10 years from when they dig the first shovel of dirt. 

There is foolishness, stupidity and insanity and the UK energy policy. 

Thank god, I'm leaving. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Lizzie if you are taken in by a slick and glossy sales brochure produced by a company that stands to make £Billions from building nuclear power stations in the UK, then yes we'll have to agree to disagree.   

A brochure that is available to all, including nuclear experts that know a lot more than you or me.  Don't you think they would have far more detail on the proposed build and comment strongly if they believed it was all wrong?

Of course they would and EDF would never get away with it in a very competitive market place

But of course, as I have stated before, it is far better to be negative and gloomy about everything when posting on the OOF.  Like the press, well the Daily Mail and Daily Express, it makes for good copy!

The brochure is very glossy and has some nice photos and a healthy smattering of spin quotes from politicians, but actually contains very little in the way of information about the reactor and power station itself.  It does however wax lyrical about the economic benefits that the build will bring to Somerset and the South West, this I don't dispute!   

The thing that I find ironic about our newly found enthusiasm for nuclear power, is that while we are closing down those nasty polluting coal power stations (which I read recently have 20 years of life left in them!  ) we are planning to build a new generation of 'clean' nuclear energy plants which is true in terms of CO2 emissions, but the waste products that they do emit have to be kept in cooling ponds for around 50 years before it is safe to handle, after which will be buried deep deep underground where it will take about 1000 years for the radioactivity to decay to levels similar to raw uranium from the mine!    That's clean??? 

Thankfully in percentage terms major nuclear incidents are rare compared to the amount of plants operating around the world, but one incident major or minor is one two many!! The Japanese government recently said that Fukushima will take 40 years and $13 billion dollars to clean up, but admitted that it may take longer and cost more, so draw your own conclusions....    Of the 160,000 people evacuated from the 30km evacuation zone around 100,000 are still not allowed home because of dangerous radioactivity levels..... 

[Sir Tigger KC]

It is very reassuring that they are going ahead with the nuclear power station as it should solve all of our energy problems.

Currently electricity from Gas and Coal costs £40 to £50 a megawatt, so we will only be paying double that for nuclear. 

Secondly, most of our coal fired power stations will be shutting in the next few months and this will be taking over to keep the lights on, where EDF aim to have in finished in 10 20 years and will cost twice as much as initial estimates, from when they dig the first shovel of dirt. 

There is foolishness, stupidity and insanity and the UK energy policy. 

Thank god, I'm leaving. 

Amended for you Rods! 

[ozzycat]

what do you mean its falling apart we never had one to fall apart in the 1st place