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Title: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: omega3000 on 23 April 2013, 18:51:22
Looking at a Omega 2.2 , what if anything should i be looking out for ? Never had a 2.2 and its an auto so the right number of pedals for me  :)
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: SIR Philbutt on 23 April 2013, 19:04:38
It's a miggy so it's the usual things cam belt, cam covers, etc,etc. I'm sure people who know better than me will be along to tell you more and of course, as is par, that there are two cylinders missing  ;D but I know better  ::)

My experience would point me at the head gasket as desmonds seem to be more prone. Usually OK if the antifreeze has been kept good though.

The Auto box is another as the 3rd gear solenoid can go. Also when was the fluid and filter changed.

HTH
Phil
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: RobG on 23 April 2013, 19:06:18
Similar checks as the V6. Suspension, engine leaks, smooth transmission, ALL warning lights illuminate & extinguish. Notwithstanding the cambelt & waterpump change, check the quality of the coolant. On the 4-pot poor coolant history = HG failure. Test drive to check diff, prop, steering vagueness, brake judder etc
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: omega3000 on 23 April 2013, 19:06:42
Yes sorry its a petrol one  :-[ :y  No history either  :-[ Although the bloke said it drives nice and smooth with no bangs or whistles  :-\
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: RobG on 23 April 2013, 19:11:11
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Although the bloke said it drives nice and smooth with no bangs or whistles
He would ;D
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: omega3000 on 23 April 2013, 19:13:41
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Although the bloke said it drives nice and smooth with no bangs or whistles
He would ;D

Aye  ;D But then there would be no point saying that then turning up and its a bag of nails  :-\
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: cnj on 23 April 2013, 19:26:44
exhaust manifolds prone to crack between no2 and 3 cylinders, other than that just the usual bits and pieces that crop up, mines done upwards of 170k just needs a service and decent tyres !
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: omega3000 on 23 April 2013, 19:29:50
exhaust manifolds prone to crack between no2 and 3 cylinders, other than that just the usual bits and pieces that crop up, mines done upwards of 170k just needs a service and decent tyres !

Arrh good point there cnj id totally forgot about that ... are those manifolds easily available ? Thats good mileage  :y
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: cnj on 23 April 2013, 19:36:56
manifolds are not overly common for good used ones, have seen them on a Vauxhall spares site for about 130 new, don't know the quality mind, could try andy c  for the price of genuine or try car parts connexions for a long look !!
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: cnj on 23 April 2013, 19:40:27
incidently the pedal trick doesn't work so some form of code scanner would be needed to check for codes both current and expired !
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: tunnie on 23 April 2013, 20:07:11
4 pots love fresh oil, can really notice when it's been changed. As Rob says coolant service is key, my 2.2 is 162k & original HG, fatherTs 2.2 HG failed at 90k (dealer serviced until we bought it)

DIY service work is so, so much easier. Cam cover is a lovely little job as is stat change, I just find life much much easier doing standard jobs.

Easily cruise at 80mph all day long, just takes a little longer to get there than V6 :)
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: omega3000 on 23 April 2013, 21:05:17
4 pots love fresh oil, can really notice when it's been changed. As Rob says coolant service is key, my 2.2 is 162k & original HG, fatherTs 2.2 HG failed at 90k (dealer serviced until we bought it)

DIY service work is so, so much easier. Cam cover is a lovely little job as is stat change, I just find life much much easier doing standard jobs.

Easily cruise at 80mph all day long, just takes a little longer to get there than V6 :)

Yep its a lot easier to change those , am i thinking its similar set up to the vectra B engine  :-\
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: tunnie on 23 April 2013, 21:07:44
Engine other way around compared to Vectra, everything is easily reachable :)
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: dbug on 23 April 2013, 21:08:24
See you got the "bug" again - good luck with it ::) ;)
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 April 2013, 21:13:47
Wise decision, Mr EMD. :y
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: omega3000 on 23 April 2013, 21:26:30
See you got the "bug" again - good luck with it ::) ;)

Not so much the bug dbug  ;D More of im losing the will to live with this unreliable heap of $##t  >:(
Besides this will be my 4th mig  :P
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: Vamps on 23 April 2013, 21:32:09
It's a miggy so it's the usual things cam belt, cam covers, etc,etc. I'm sure people who know better than me will be along to tell you more and of course, as is par, that there are two cylinders missing  ;D but I know better  ::)

My experience would point me at the head gasket as desmonds seem to be more prone. Usually OK if the antifreeze has been kept good though.

The Auto box is another as the 3rd gear solenoid can go. Also when was the fluid and filter changed.

HTH
Phil

I had this on my last 2.2 despite a fsh....... ::) ::)
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: omega3000 on 23 April 2013, 21:43:17
But if i could get the car cheap enough changing the headgasket on a 4 pot is simple enough , i can check and if its a bit iffy knock him down on price  ;)
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: SIR Philbutt on 23 April 2013, 22:14:31
But if i could get the car cheap enough changing the headgasket on a 4 pot is simple enough , i can check and if its a bit iffy knock him down on price  ;)

Would agree do it all at once HG, belt, pump, EGR, throttle,stat, cam sensor/cover gasket, stat, box fluid & filter/gaskets, plugs oil & filte, both manifold gaskets +. At a guess £500-£600 should cover it if you are doing the work
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: omega3000 on 23 April 2013, 22:57:26
But if i could get the car cheap enough changing the headgasket on a 4 pot is simple enough , i can check and if its a bit iffy knock him down on price  ;)

Would agree do it all at once HG, belt, pump, EGR, throttle,stat, cam sensor/cover gasket, stat, box fluid & filter/gaskets, plugs oil & filte, both manifold gaskets +. At a guess £500-£600 should cover it if you are doing the work

 :'( :(

Sod that i could get a v6 for that price  ;D
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: OmegaAnglesey on 23 April 2013, 23:04:49
But if i could get the car cheap enough changing the headgasket on a 4 pot is simple enough , i can check and if its a bit iffy knock him down on price  ;)

Would agree do it all at once HG, belt, pump, EGR, throttle,stat, cam sensor/cover gasket, stat, box fluid & filter/gaskets, plugs oil & filte, both manifold gaskets +. At a guess £500-£600 should cover it if you are doing the work

 :'( :(

Sod that i could get a v6 for that price  ;D
Didn't do any of the highlighted things on mine in three or so years of owning it and its still going strong  ::) 

(TOUCH WOOD lol)
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: omega3000 on 23 April 2013, 23:16:56
I know my old 2.0 vectra B suffered head gasket failure because of lack of coolant changes ... looking at the water ways it was in a terrible state  :(
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: SIR Philbutt on 24 April 2013, 19:28:40
But if i could get the car cheap enough changing the headgasket on a 4 pot is simple enough , i can check and if its a bit iffy knock him down on price  ;)

Would agree do it all at once HG, belt, pump, EGR, throttle,stat, cam sensor/cover gasket, stat, box fluid & filter/gaskets, plugs oil & filte, both manifold gaskets +. At a guess £500-£600 should cover it if you are doing the work

 :'( :(

Sod that i could get a v6 for that price  ;D
Didn't do any of the highlighted things on mine in three or so years of owning it and its still going strong  ::) 

(TOUCH WOOD lol)
It's just a list of what could be done seeing as the thing will be in bit's for the HG. Might as well sort of thing.
It's almost what I did to mine when my HG failed, wont have to worry about mine for three years now  :y apart from all the other suff that can go. Car's gotta love em  ::)
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: philsteward on 24 April 2013, 23:05:01
Being a little cheeky here but my 2.2 is up for sale, if you are interested drop me a PM.

As for what to look for everything that has been mentioned really. HG though a pain is easy to do yourself.
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: omega3000 on 25 April 2013, 11:15:00
HG is a doddle to do really but dont want to be doing that anytime soon  ::) my 2.0 Vectra B engine needed the head skimmed and even then you could still see the water ways corrosion/pits and all ..skimmed it to an inch of its life  ;D went like a bullet after that , then someone ran into the side of it and wrote it off  >:(
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 25 April 2013, 14:56:21
HG is a doddle to do really but dont want to be doing that anytime soon  ::) my 2.0 Vectra B engine needed the head skimmed and even then you could still see the water ways corrosion/pits and all ..skimmed it to an inch of its life  ;D went like a bullet after that , then someone ran into the side of it and wrote it off  >:(

What are you looking to spend, Mr EMD?
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: omega3000 on 25 April 2013, 15:04:30
HG is a doddle to do really but dont want to be doing that anytime soon  ::) my 2.0 Vectra B engine needed the head skimmed and even then you could still see the water ways corrosion/pits and all ..skimmed it to an inch of its life  ;D went like a bullet after that , then someone ran into the side of it and wrote it off  >:(

What are you looking to spend, Mr EMD?

Peanuts sir , the most ive ever spent buying an omega is £400 the last one i bought for £350 . Not looking to spend a lot but willing to buy something that needs a bit of work but running  :-\
Title: Re: 2.2 Check List ?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 25 April 2013, 15:26:09
HG is a doddle to do really but dont want to be doing that anytime soon  ::) my 2.0 Vectra B engine needed the head skimmed and even then you could still see the water ways corrosion/pits and all ..skimmed it to an inch of its life  ;D went like a bullet after that , then someone ran into the side of it and wrote it off  >:(

What are you looking to spend, Mr EMD?

Peanuts sir , the most ive ever spent buying an omega is £400 the last one i bought for £350 . Not looking to spend a lot but willing to buy something that needs a bit of work but running  :-\


Unfortunately times are hard, Mr EMD........ and this means you end up in an area called 'compromise' :-\

It's the same with any car, stay below 4 or even 5 figures and you 'compromise'........spend 1.2 million and you don't have to.

Check your lottery ticket carefully this week, and everything could change. :y :y :y